2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Rikhart wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:23
Darth-Piekus wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:20
Max is a fantastic talent and obviously his car is still good. However he tends to bully people and that damages his image of a driver that is in the calibre of gods like Senna Hamilton, Alonso or Schumacher. I believe he could be on that level if he starts battling clean.
So what you're saying is he is exactly like those two?
Allow me to rephrase. He tends to bully people and that damages the image of someone who is supposed to be or targets to be a god like Senna, Prost, Alonso, Hamilton or Schumacher.

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Mansell89 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:27
Lando will cruise to a win tomorrow IMO

Hoping the Ferraris can give Max trouble and keep him off the podium.
What, eh, pardon?

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CjC wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:28
It’s cooler tomorrow for the race as well compared to Quali. Should be another easy one for Ferrari
Since when did cooler temps become Ferrari's forte lol.

They have been struggling on cold temps all season, their car's biggest weakness is warming up tires quickly. It's why they haven't been amazing on quali all season. Cooler temps should hurt them.

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Emag wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:32
CjC wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:28
It’s cooler tomorrow for the race as well compared to Quali. Should be another easy one for Ferrari
Since when did cooler temps become Ferrari's forte lol.

They have been struggling on cold temps all season, their car's biggest weakness is warming up tires quickly. It's why they haven't been amazing on quali all season. Cooler temps should hurt them.
All season changed after Monza though. This is new Ferrari.

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Mansell89 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:27
Lando will cruise to a win tomorrow IMO

Hoping the Ferraris can give Max trouble and keep him off the podium.
The Ferraris had a massive race pace delta in FP2 where fuel loads were mandated at a 20kg. They were also gapping the competition by 1 second in race pace in FP1.

This looks like it's going to be a snoozer where Ferrari absolutely dominates.

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Ben1980 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:33
Emag wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:32
CjC wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:28
It’s cooler tomorrow for the race as well compared to Quali. Should be another easy one for Ferrari
Since when did cooler temps become Ferrari's forte lol.

They have been struggling on cold temps all season, their car's biggest weakness is warming up tires quickly. It's why they haven't been amazing on quali all season. Cooler temps should hurt them.
All season changed after Monza though. This is new Ferrari.
Ferrari absolutely still struggles in low temps. Just not as much as they did before.

What Monza did was allow them to get up to temp easier by getting rid of the bouncing and increasing overall downforce, which results in extra load. Ferrari stil has a car that fundamentally struggled with tyre temp more than the competition though. It is arguably worth it however, given their ridiculously good tyre wear.

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Tomorrow is another game. The huge straight and that slipstream could help Norris gain an advantage and gain a place or two depending of what happens. In any case people should not overreact. No WCC is won or lost yet and nothing indicates that Mclaren wont gain again the upper hand. Good thing is that at least this proves that Mclaren never had such a dominant car like the RB20.

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Emag wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:32
CjC wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:28
It’s cooler tomorrow for the race as well compared to Quali. Should be another easy one for Ferrari
Since when did cooler temps become Ferrari's forte lol.

They have been struggling on cold temps all season, their car's biggest weakness is warming up tires quickly. It's why they haven't been amazing on quali all season. Cooler temps should hurt them.
Should give Mclaren half a chance in the race then :twisted:
Just a fan's point of view

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can someone tell me the differences between car4 and car81 in terms of hardware used ? floor, wings etc

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https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status/18 ... 1273083020
Andrea Stella
"They have a competitive car in race trim, and looking back at Austin, Ferrari were quite ahead in the Sprint. And then we couldn't see the pace because Lando lost position, but I think here, our car is quite closely matched with Ferrari on race pace and we must not forget that Max is there as well."

Overall, I would say the car during this qualifying session was competitive and able to claim pole position, but Carlos raised the bar.
He says there were a few mistakes on the lap, but overall, he is happy that the car was competitive


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Wow I was watching Oscar's first soft tyre run and it cut to the onboards. He was absolutely overdriving the car - yes I know Mexico is a gnarly little goat track that takes some aggression to get good times but this was looking like he had lost that confident hand on the wheel. And he had no way of getting tyres abused like that to do another hot lap. I know teams like the top four like to get enough feedback in Q1 to help for their final setups in Q2 and Q3, BUT, risking so much when top 15 is a virtual given??? The only concession we can make is the kid hasn't qualified outside the top 10 all season. Down to earth with a thud.

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Emag wrote:
26 Oct 2024, 23:14
That wasn't a reply to you so I don't know why you're replying to it.

As for the rest, I don't argue that McLaren should have been the team with the most race wins this season. What I do argue about is when people claim that they have had enough pace in hand to have easily won every race since Miami and that is just not true. The car hasn't been anywhere close to being the dominant force at every track and some of the races they lost, were lost because they required absolute perfect execution to overcome the tight margins. They failed to deliver and that's not really shocking considering this is the first time they find themselves fighting for wins after a decade. Even then, the only true clusterf*ck was Silverstone.

The reason why people are unwilling to acknowledge that McLaren threw Lando's WDC away, is because it's not true. Lando has thrown points away from mistakes of his own, but people act like he has thrown away the win every race since Miami.

And also people forget that they started the season at race 5. Max was already too far ahead by the time Miami came around and them being slower than Ferrari early on meant that they were getting very little points while Max was getting P1 every race.

Still, the WCC is still possible for them to win, so it's not a complete failure of a season as some people here suggest.
Your comment started out reasonable, but then you went to this defense of how Mclaren/Lando are not actually at fault for their championship situation, which is cope. You're trying to make some extreme argument "Lando has thrown away the win every race" when that's not what people are actually saying. Just that they've blown enough opportunities with the best car that it's inexcusable.

If you're a reasonable Mclaren fan, you should be extremely annoyed by it, not trying to run defense.
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 00:37
Tomorrow is another game. The huge straight and that slipstream could help Norris gain an advantage and gain a place or two depending of what happens. In any case people should not overreact. No WCC is won or lost yet and nothing indicates that Mclaren wont gain again the upper hand. Good thing is that at least this proves that Mclaren never had such a dominant car like the RB20.
The retarded overtaking guidelines still exist though, so Lando will overtake no Red Bull into T1. Will have to wait for the pit stops.

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Overall I would say the car during this qualifying session was competitive, and was in a condition to score the pole position, even though Carlos in the final session kind of raised the bar quite a bit," said Stella.

"If we take the natural progression, then with Lando we might have been there. But we have to say that the two laps in Q3, they weren't great.

"In the first one, there were a couple of mistakes - these overheated the tyres and then the tyres were going away from Lando.

"In the second one, it wasn't very clean, but it was important to make sure that it was decent enough to be there in the first or the second row.
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