Being behind Max wouldnt have helped either. End of stint pace on both stints caught my eye in particularEmag wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 00:42https://i.imgur.com/voOdcIq.png
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Lando the fastest on the second stint, but not by a ton.
First stint was horrible again, but him getting on the grass and on the dirty off-track too might have hurt his tires beyond repair.
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These comments add nothing of value to any discussion. All you do is complain about Max. Maybe go to reddit or scream into a pillow if all you want to do is rant.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 01:13Well Ferrari wasnt lucky but I dont see how Lando would have lost these two races from clean air if Max wasnt there to destroy his races. Things would definately have goten differently.
Actually, Lando's first stint was riding behind Max in dirty air.Emag wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 00:42https://i.imgur.com/voOdcIq.png
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Lando the fastest on the second stint, but not by a ton.
First stint was horrible again, but him getting on the grass and on the dirty off-track too might have hurt his tires beyond repair.
bananapeel23 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 01:30I think he would have had a better chance in clean air instead of having to battle Mad Max on dirty air. Ferrari should definately give a gift card to Max.Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 01:13These comments add nothing of value to any discussion. All you do is complain about Max. Maybe go to reddit or scream into a pillow if all you want to do is rant.
Also Norris almost certainly wouldn't have won either race. Ferrari were just plain faster in COTA, and significantly faster in stint 1 in Mexico. We also have no clue how much pace Sainz had left in the tank, he was cruising to the win.
Michael SchumacherDarth-Piekus wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 00:23As I said by the way last week Max is a great talent but with racecraft like that he can't be anywhere near the greats.
Ummm. At monza LEC won with an insane strategy gamble after he was gifted the lead by the battling McLarens, COTA they were gifted the lead by Max, in Mexico, if Lando didn't have Max the Seagull dive-bombing him, he would have been on Carlos's rear wing within a couple laps. Monaco was somewhat dominant but you can't pass there anywaybananapeel23 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 00:53????
Ferrari dominated COTA and Monaco. Sainz was comfortably fastest in Mexico. Monza was arguably about 50/50 because Leclerc was amazing on his tyres and might've won even if McLaren went for a 1-stopper.
Ferrari has usually been the fastest when they have won. The only real exception is Australia.
I don't think either Senna or Prost have a legacy as being dirty racers apart from the one infamous mutual incident between themMcL-H wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 02:25Michael SchumacherDarth-Piekus wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 00:23As I said by the way last week Max is a great talent but with racecraft like that he can't be anywhere near the greats.
Ayrton Senna
Alain Prost
They drove with this same mentality against their championship rivals. I’d argue it’s the mentality that makes champions. I love Max for it and at the same time I hate him for it when it’s costing my dear team. I wished he drove for us.
In Monza the poor tyre deg of the McLarens was masked by them pitting. Piastri was already falling off a cliff and was being lined up for an overtake by Leclerc when he came into the pits. They were degging off hard and would have really struggled to win on a one-stop.Macklaren wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 02:26Ummm. At monza LEC won with an insane strategy gamble after he was gifted the lead by the battling McLarens, COTA they were gifted the lead by Max, in Mexico, if Lando didn't have Max the Seagull dive-bombing him, he would have been on Carlos's rear wing within a couple laps. Monaco was somewhat dominant but you can't pass there anywaybananapeel23 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 00:53????
Ferrari dominated COTA and Monaco. Sainz was comfortably fastest in Mexico. Monza was arguably about 50/50 because Leclerc was amazing on his tyres and might've won even if McLaren went for a 1-stopper.
Ferrari has usually been the fastest when they have won. The only real exception is Australia.