2024 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 01 - 03

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michl420
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Re: 2024 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 01 - 03

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astracrazy wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:40
RonMexico wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:40
Should have been a red when the heavy rain came in
Yeah, the FIA gambled here and lost.
Actually they bring the SC before the crashes. A driver ­who lost the car under SC is hardly there fault.

astracrazy
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michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:54
astracrazy wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:40
RonMexico wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:40
Should have been a red when the heavy rain came in
Yeah, the FIA gambled here and lost.
Actually they bring the SC before the crashes. A driver ­who lost the car under SC is hardly there fault.
They brought out the safety car instead of a red flag and ended up with a red flag anyway.

michl420
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Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:43
How many more years before this idiotic rule about red flags and tire changes is changed at last?? Pathetic…
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.

Gillian
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michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:43
How many more years before this idiotic rule about red flags and tire changes is changed at last?? Pathetic…
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
Thank you, was about to say the same. This always comes up.

Tommy.G
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michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:43
How many more years before this idiotic rule about red flags and tire changes is changed at last?? Pathetic…
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
It should be up to the race director to decide if changes should be allowed! Probably allow changes to a damaged car…but not tires!

astracrazy
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michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:43
How many more years before this idiotic rule about red flags and tire changes is changed at last?? Pathetic…
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
Its no different to people wanting the pit lane closed under a safety car - of course when their favourite driver loses out

astracrazy
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Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:59
michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:43
How many more years before this idiotic rule about red flags and tire changes is changed at last?? Pathetic…
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
It should be up to the race director to decide if changes should be allowed! Probably allow changes to a damaged car…but not tires!
How in earth is that fair :lol: classic

LionKing
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Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:59
michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:43
How many more years before this idiotic rule about red flags and tire changes is changed at last?? Pathetic…
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
It should be up to the race director to decide if changes should be allowed! Probably allow changes to a damaged car…but not tires!
Right, more options to manipulate the race.
So they can replace the rear wing but the tires stays the same?

Farnborough
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Gillian wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:59
michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
Tommy.G wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:43
How many more years before this idiotic rule about red flags and tire changes is changed at last?? Pathetic…
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
Thank you, was about to say the same. This always comes up.
Ultimately it's about safety, IF there were to be any damage to a tire that has to restart, then liability to all driver safety is suspect.

Nobody would want to risk or sign off with that potential.

There's no real way around it in these circumstances.

Gillian
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Farnborough wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:02
Gillian wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:59
michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
Thank you, was about to say the same. This always comes up.
Ultimately it's about safety, IF there were to be any damage to a tire that has to restart, then liability to all driver safety is suspect.

Nobody would want to risk or sign off with that potential.

There's no real way around it in these circumstances.
Agreed its fine like this.

LHamilton
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If it is a rolling start, shouldnt they start on WETs? If they deem rolling start necessary due to conditions. Maybe that is just at the start of the race.

Hoffman900
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Farnborough wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:02
Gillian wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:59
michl420 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 18:57
I read the same so often ­when the rule ­was the other ­way around.
Thank you, was about to say the same. This always comes up.
Ultimately it's about safety, IF there were to be any damage to a tire that has to restart, then liability to all driver safety is suspect.

Nobody would want to risk or sign off with that potential.

There's no real way around it in these circumstances.
There is and every series does this.

You change the tire after the red flag and take the position penalty just like you would if the race never got red flagged.

F1 is the only major racing series who allows this ridiculous red flag rule. If you need to fix the car, you do it after the red flag.
Last edited by Hoffman900 on 03 Nov 2024, 19:09, edited 1 time in total.

Tvetovnato
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Norris throwing it again.

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Ocon: i am speed

astracrazy
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Bearman learning the hardway.