2024 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 01 - 03

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Zynerji
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What a clusterfùck of a race...🙄

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dialtone wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:30

I'm no Senna fan but do you people just discard Senna lapping everyone at Donington Park in the rain with the first lap on slicks under pouring rain?
So much wrong with this statement. He didn't lap anybody on the first lap and he wasn't on slicks on that first lap in Donnington. What he did do was go from fifth to first on that first lap passing Schumacher, Hill, Prost and a Sauber.

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carisi2k wrote:
dialtone wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:30

I'm no Senna fan but do you people just discard Senna lapping everyone at Donington Park in the rain with the first lap on slicks under pouring rain?
So much wrong with this statement. He didn't lap anybody on the first lap and he wasn't on slicks on that first lap in Donnington. What he did do was go from fifth to first on that first lap passing Schumacher, Hill, Prost and a Sauber.
I think it’s fun that you think I said that Senna lapped everyone on lap 1.

But you are right they weren’t on slicks.

But yeah he lapped everyone including those small 3 people you mentioned lmao.

Edit: should we talk about Schumacher in 1996 Barcelona? Easily not a good car on the grid, had to switch to raised nose mid season, still absolutely schooled almost everyone there. And by schooled I mean he almost lapped everyone but the 2nd and 3rd after qualifying about 1s slower the day before.
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dialtone wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:21
basti313 wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:18
This is totally not true. While Max had a great drive and we should all recognize that. It's utterly ridiculous to claim that the car plays no role in the wet.
Yep. You always see the same in front, just like the Alpine today.
So OCO that gave max 10s pre SC is the best in the wet then?
Tbf it was only 3.5s gap that started to go back down until SC hit. And that probably indicates that alpine have great warmup of the intermediate tyres.. but clean air is a huge part of pace in the wet for sure

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mzso wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:15
Rikhart wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 21:07
AMG.Tzan wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 19:29
Not even Vettel’s 2012 Brazilian GP luck can come close to this thing…
Here's some advice: Just enjoy watching the best driver ever driving in real time, live, as it happens. In some years you will be able to look back on this and realise how lucky you were to have this blessing.
Which would that be? Leclerc or Alonso?
Best driver ever was Senna!!
If I come across as blunt, I apologise, it's my ASD. Sometimes, like an F1 car aqua-planing, it gets out of my control.

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Have we just witnessed the greatest drive in the history of F1 ? Max was flawless.

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Yes. However according to Lando in his interviews it seems it was just luck

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fritticaldi wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:05
Have we just witnessed the greatest drive in the history of F1 ? Max was flawless.
One of the best for sure !

The last stint was especially outrageous. I remember Mclaren telling Norris to get closer to Leclerc so Piatsri could avoid losing position with his penalty and Norris answered angrily that he was already doing his best.

I mean Leclerc, Russell, Norris, Piastri, they were all very far from Max pace who was setting fastest lap after fastest lap.

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I just realized, that Herbert is REALLY a steward this race. :mrgreen:
I was really just joking before about this... :lol:
Zynerji wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:41
What a clusterfùck of a race...🙄
I am currently thinking about how --- Herbert now feels. He has to summon Lando (for a reprimand) and then needs to decide if he wants to gift some points to him by DSQ his favorite drivers :twisted:
And some here speak about bad luck for Lando...but Jonny is the one having a bad time now...
Don`t russel the hamster!

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Stea1th wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
Yes. However according to Lando in his interviews it seems it was just luck
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10670337/
Just a fan's point of view

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Stea1th wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 23:06
Yes. However according to Lando in his interviews it seems it was just luck
not what he said... he said the red flag was just luck.

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No offence to anyone... and this is coming from a Hamilton fan - Max 100% earned this one. He is the rightful winner of the WDC 2024. He makes no mistakes, he is fast in quali and fast in races, up there with the very best of this sport. Max, S tier, Norris, A tier. At least this year.

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If it was LH who drove that race, everyone would be calling this the greatest drive of all time. But it's not so the magnitude of this win is downplayed to diminish Max. It's absolutely clear we have never seen talent like Max in F1 history. He is undisputed GOAT. The best driver debate should focus on the category below Max, who is beyond reproach.

1. Max Verstappen


<Massive gap>

2. Lewis
3. Schumacher

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dialtone wrote:
03 Nov 2024, 22:30

Senna lapping everyone at Donington Park in the rain with the first lap on slicks under pouring rain?
So is this not what you said in bold and underline?

I watched that race on TV live and Senna was supreme and that was probably the best first lap ever and your choice of best ever wet race is on point but you wrote and posted this which falsely says that he was lapping everyone on the first lap which is not true.