2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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KimiRai
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Some say this was heard of already in September.



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Bill
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dan fallows was not involved in last year car that gave them 8 podiums he inherited it.they actually fired they guy that gave them success.

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Bill wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 15:11
dan fallows was not involved in last year car that gave them 8 podiums he inherited it.they actually fired they guy that gave them success.
They didn't fire Andrew Green...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/long ... /10432508/
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Bill wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 15:11
dan fallows was not involved in last year car that gave them 8 podiums he inherited it.they actually fired they guy that gave them success.
Dan Fallows joined the team in April 2022 and was very much a part of the AMR23, which adopted some of the Red Bull characteristics.

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I hate to be cynical but it was rumored that Newey and Fallows didn't get along at Red Bull. Now Newey is arriving at AMR and fallows is heading out the door?

Who is the new technical director?
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 15:26
Who is the new technical director?
From what I could read...

Executive director Bob Bell, a highly regarded and experienced design engineer who joined the team in March, will fill in on a temporary basis.

Fallows' departure is a move driven by new managing director Andy Cowell. The former head of Mercedes' F1 engine programme started at Aston Martin in October.

The plan is to appoint a new technical director, but likely only after Newey and Cardile have started work and decided their plans.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/arti ... mvx314j1zo

Fallows was set to report to Cardile, who will join as Chief Technical Officer, but Motorsport.com understands the team hasn't yet decided if Fallows will be directly replaced once its new hires are in place.

In the meantime, Fallows' responsibilities will be absorbed by Aston's current technical leadership, which includes deputy technical director Eric Blandin and Bob Bell, who holds the role of Executive Director - Technical.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/asto ... /10672396/
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It's a good decision from Andy Cowell (imo). Shows good leadership right away.
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Sounds like management clusterfvck. They need to sort that out.
Honda!

Rikrikrik
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We could be any hope with AMR25 now with Bob Bell in the front?

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Rikrikrik wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 16:21
We could be any hope with AMR25 now with Bob Bell in the front?
He is an ex-TD. We don't know but I would like to think he'll do OK

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 16:07
It's a good decision from Andy Cowell (imo). Shows good leadership right away.
I am always wary of a newcomer immediately cleaning house, as that person cannot possibly understand the complexity of an 800+ person team in a month. I certainly hope this wasn't a rash decision.

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TyreSlip wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 16:30
AR3-GP wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 16:07
It's a good decision from Andy Cowell (imo). Shows good leadership right away.
I am always wary of a newcomer immediately cleaning house, as that person cannot possibly understand the complexity of an 800+ person team in a month. I certainly hope this wasn't a rash decision.
Fallow wasted too much time already trying prove himself, its a right choice for now.

KimiRai
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TyreSlip wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 16:30
AR3-GP wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 16:07
It's a good decision from Andy Cowell (imo). Shows good leadership right away.
I am always wary of a newcomer immediately cleaning house, as that person cannot possibly understand the complexity of an 800+ person team in a month. I certainly hope this wasn't a rash decision.
Imo it does not seem to be a rash decision as some have commented it was heard already in September. Andy knows how to run groups of people very well, I would not think he made a rookie mistake! :)

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Rikrikrik wrote:
12 Nov 2024, 16:21
We could be any hope with AMR25 now with Bob Bell in the front?
2025 is gonna be a nothing year. finishing lower is more beneficial since regs change for 2026

KimiRai
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Surely this choice has Newey's approval, same as Whitmarsh's exit. He was rumoured to not get along very well with both and coincidentally both have stepped down