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SF-23 in Monaco,Sainz‘s car
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AutoRacer.it shared some more photos here https://autoracer.it/it/gallery-las-veg ... -top-team/

The whole rear corner of the floor and the edge are completely new, working very very differently than it is now. They are playing around with new high and low pressure zones on both sides of the floor, I think this is aimed at improved cornering rather than outright downforce, through better sealing of diffuser and keeping the dirty air out

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Small changes to low-load front wing since Monza, it looks like only the 4th flap has been changed

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Z-one wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 02:00
SF-23 in Monaco,Sainz‘s car
Air inlets looks like SF 24 Barcelona spec.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 21:08
Vanja #66 wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 14:58
Experimental floor edge details, photo by motorsport. Completely new local geometry, very different from anything else seen thus far on any car (as far as I remember).

https://cdn-2.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... etail.webp

Compared to Monza-spec:

https://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/upload ... fondo.jpeg
Same type of feature just more sculpted (exaggerated)
Well, no. There is an outwash ramp directly detaching from the Venturi. Before there was a clear separation between the Venturi and the little edge pocket everyone uses. Also, the edge wing has a vertical outwashing feature now

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yooogurt wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 13:07
Air inlets looks like SF 24 Barcelona spec.
Indeed, it's SF24 with hp sponsorship on outboard turning vane. I believe it's from Hungary, when Leclerc had an off at T4. It's not post-Monza floor for sure.

Thanks for sharing, here's the original article https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/gp ... b4576.html

I've done some rough photo enhancing for better contrast and trying to get more details. I've circled bulk details on the the left side and put numbers on the right where we have the radii reflection giving us the perfect overview of the floor contour

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1) the SIS tube bulge, which we saw already in early season on photos from top side. It's very prominent and a local suction-generating surface no doubt. This area is very delicate due to interaction with the main turning-vane vortex

2) this seems to be the area where the throat is, ie where the tunnel roof is the shortest. This section seems to be going down towards the floor edge wing, which generates extraction and local suction in this area

3) the junction area with outboard tunnel wall, I think this area is very important for cornering performance and flow stability in critical conditions. It just so happens this is the area where Ferrari will be making a big change for next year it seems

4) the diffuser kick, fairly tall compared to RB and McL, if Ferrari really move the cockpit and everything behind backwards to move the CoG back - this area may go down a bit to bring more rear load and more load overall obviously

5) the outboard diffuser geometry has been changed since the start of the season, Ferrari seem to have found a way to introduce a bigger local curvature here to increase local load in an area without critical ride-height sensitivity
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Vanja #66 wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 13:58
yooogurt wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 13:07
Air inlets looks like SF 24 Barcelona spec.
Indeed, it's SF24 with hp sponsorship on outboard turning vane. I believe it's from Hungary, when Leclerc had an off at T4. It's not post-Monza floor for sure.

https://i.ibb.co/XCFJNdp/sf24-floor.jpg


3) the junction area with outboard tunnel wall, I think this area is very important for cornering performance and flow stability in critical conditions. It just so happens this is the area where Ferrari will be making a big change for next year it seems
That's what I mean. From this picture it's clear there's a definite step between the tunnel and the edge pocket. In the new floor it looks like the want to "actively" feed the pocket from the Venturi outward.

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nico5 wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 14:39





That's what I mean. From this picture it's clear there's a definite step between the tunnel and the edge pocket. In the new floor it looks like the want to "actively" feed the pocket from the Venturi outward.
I think this picture also makes it clear what you mean:



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yooogurt wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 13:07
Z-one wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 02:00
SF-23 in Monaco,Sainz‘s car
Air inlets looks like SF 24 Barcelona spec.
yes,my fault
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nico5 wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 13:49
PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 21:08
Vanja #66 wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 14:58
Experimental floor edge details, photo by motorsport. Completely new local geometry, very different from anything else seen thus far on any car (as far as I remember).

https://cdn-2.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... etail.webp

Compared to Monza-spec:

https://www.newsf1.it/wp-content/upload ... fondo.jpeg
Same type of feature just more sculpted (exaggerated)
Well, no. There is an outwash ramp directly detaching from the Venturi. Before there was a clear separation between the Venturi and the little edge pocket everyone uses. Also, the edge wing has a vertical outwashing feature now
Look again. The old one has it.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
23 Nov 2024, 03:29
nico5 wrote:
22 Nov 2024, 13:49
PlatinumZealot wrote:
21 Nov 2024, 21:08


Same type of feature just more sculpted (exaggerated)
Well, no. There is an outwash ramp directly detaching from the Venturi. Before there was a clear separation between the Venturi and the little edge pocket everyone uses. Also, the edge wing has a vertical outwashing feature now
Look again. The old one has it.

<presonal stuff removed>
Oh the winglet? You're right. Too bad they've changed the whole roof profile and inserted a diverting channel. And the whole edge wing is different as well, come to think of it. I guess that's no modification at all because the winglet is still there...

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What is with the new TD regarding plank "consumption"?
Does SF24 will have any problems with that?

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FDD wrote:
23 Nov 2024, 23:32
What is with the new TD regarding plank "consumption"?
Does SF24 will have any problems with that?
Vasseur has said that this TD won't affect car performance but will affect budget cause they need to redesign edges.

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Wait a minute, they took the experimental floor to Qatar for a sprint weekend? Another test in the only practice? Risky.
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