2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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DDopey
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Totally understand Carlos, it is a situation Ferrari have created themselves. There is no incentive whatsoever for Carlos to play the team game.

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deadhead
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Too much drama for my liking.

I guess Sainz knows that his might be his list chance of a podium or a win so he is just trying to maximize that, which is understable, but at least say it out loud and just do that instead of saying one thing to the team and doing something else on track.

f1316 wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 19:15
I think the constructors is now very unlikely, unfortunately. They will need to leave Qatar having scored more points than McLaren - and, in principle, a decent amount more - and without exogenous events, I just don’t see that happening. It’s a shame because I think it will be very close in the end but just not quite enough.
McLaren 1-2 there is what everyone expects I think

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deadhead wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 19:46
Too much drama for my liking.

I guess Sainz knows that his might be his list chance of a podium or a win so he is just trying to maximize that, which is understable, but at least say it out loud and just do that instead of saying one thing to the team and doing something else on track.

f1316 wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 19:15
I think the constructors is now very unlikely, unfortunately. They will need to leave Qatar having scored more points than McLaren - and, in principle, a decent amount more - and without exogenous events, I just don’t see that happening. It’s a shame because I think it will be very close in the end but just not quite enough.
McLaren 1-2 there is what everyone expects I think
McLaren 1-2 is what most people predicted for today’s race and we all knew where they finished.

Timtim99
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codetower wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 16:14
SoulPancake13 wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 10:50
The team(or may aptly Sainz I guess) have lost Charles it seems. He is fuming. Sainz just spoke of an agreement they have to not speak of each other in the media or on the radio so this might get spicy. These vibes are not what we need to win WCC...

Can't say I blame Charles. Seems like every-time they have an agreement about in race behavior, Sainz ignores.
This is why nobody wanted Carlos.
Carlos is never a team player, for him it me, me, and me again hence all the top team didn’t want him

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Timtim99 wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 19:51
deadhead wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 19:46
Too much drama for my liking.

I guess Sainz knows that his might be his list chance of a podium or a win so he is just trying to maximize that, which is understable, but at least say it out loud and just do that instead of saying one thing to the team and doing something else on track.

f1316 wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 19:15
I think the constructors is now very unlikely, unfortunately. They will need to leave Qatar having scored more points than McLaren - and, in principle, a decent amount more - and without exogenous events, I just don’t see that happening. It’s a shame because I think it will be very close in the end but just not quite enough.
McLaren 1-2 there is what everyone expects I think
McLaren 1-2 is what most people predicted for today’s race and we all knew where they finished.
What??
You mean a Ferrari 1-2 today?
Just a fan's point of view

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Vanja #66 wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 15:09
Did Sainz slow down on purpose to give Max DRS for defense? I don't think we'll ever learn

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I wouldn't consider myself necessarily a member of the tifosi but my wife is Italian so by default am fan-adjacent?

Anyways, seems like Ferrari plays a large role often in creating these situations between LeClerc and Sainz. Both drivers seem to have little confidence in their race engineers too often. Fluctuates between one driver following directions closer and getting screwed over (often LeClair) and the other driver taking more liberty, resulting in less failures but causing team tension (Sainz). It's very weird to see happen so often. Hopefully I'm wrong but the Hamilton signing seems like a recipe for disaster.

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Sevach wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 21:19
Vanja #66 wrote:
24 Nov 2024, 15:09
Did Sainz slow down on purpose to give Max DRS for defense? I don't think we'll ever learn
https://twitter.com/f1bigdata/status/18 ... 4NPVpCZLQ
https://x.com/F1BigData/status/1860762370274161071
More information on this, taken from
@victorabadf1

, it seems that Sainz's behaviour in turns 10-11 is NORMAL, even the engineer asked him on the radio on several occasions to lift his foot more in that area.
This is the translation of his post.

The fact is this: Sainz lifted his foot between turns 10-11 for 82% of the race.

Not only did he do it throughout the Grand Prix, but the track engineer insisted for half the race that he do it even more. Since the data is of interest, here is the detail of each time he lifted his foot + the radios of his engineer:
Good to read the entire thread, that way you can see when the author corrects their own misinformation.