Schuey to McLaren?!

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McLaurin
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schumacher should just retire and let the formula 1 to the youngster like raikonnen and alsono and so on
hes getting just to old i think
David Coulthard is the best !!!!!

pwr_paji
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Michael and Mclaren

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has any one thought about it this way?

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns15445.html :?:

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Scuderia_Russ
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McLaurin wrote:schumacher should just retire and let the formula 1 to the youngster like raikonnen and alsono and so on
hes getting just to old i think
These sort of comments never cease to amaze me.OLD?! Compared to Raikkonen and Alonso, he's older than them, yes but he is still quicker than either of them imo. He is blowing Rubens away even more than ever as the season moves into the second half of the season, and the guy has the fitness level of someone in his twenties. Just because no other drivers have been able to hack the relentless pace post thirty five years of age, doesn't mean this guy can't. Mentally and physically he is still peaking and i see no reason why he cannot race until forty five, but who knows. If he is uncompetitive he has said that he will stop, but he obviously isn't. Nigel Mansell won his championship when he was 39, and won his last race (Adelaide '94) when he was forty one... and he wasn't well known for his fitness level, quite the opposite. I hope Schuey signs up for McLaren for five years or something stupid!!! Oh how i would laugh! :lol:
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Yea, he's the best driver money can buy. Period.
And I don't even like him. But the truth is he's still the big dog. And if anyone has any doubts, compare him to his current teammate, Reubens. In a troubled car and tires, Shu has exhibited his usual incredible skills. In fact, the drive of the season, so far was by Shu, when he overwhelmed the field at San Marino, and put Alonso to the ultimate test.
But my theory still is valid, that all these McLaren rumors are there to pressure Ferrari and Bridgestone for a competitive car. Think about it, somewhere in Japan, top exectutives at Bridgestone are reading the rumors, and feel the public embasassment and humiliation. To them, it's something they really don't want.
But here's another interesting tidbit.. money ......Shu wants a raise.
http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=96119

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its no secret ferrari is after kimi to be shumachers successor. maybe shumacher and kimi swapping seats!! HAHA..

Hudsonhawk
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Why would anyone want to pay a driver "X" amount of millions when he is clearly only capable of racing a winning car ? Before you know it he may be looking to drive for the pace car.....this would assure him no.1 over EVERYONE ?!?!

He has more of a chance of getting the pension than driving a Mac !! I dont think there is much love there for him and his exploiting ways ?!?!?

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schumi may go

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No one has pointed out that the red car's budgets are not goig to grow anytime soon. In fact, the money from Fiat is probably going to stop. And what if they want a return on their investment? Schumi has already said that engineers have left because of a lack of $$$.

Just think of him moving on. You better beleive that daimler could use him to relaunch their brand globally and $500 mill extra(2-3 years of salary and 2-3 extra funding for Ron) and make sure that the resources are there. It doesn't guarantee success, but it cant hurt.

And if the Italians could get a cheaper talented driver and use the rest of Schumi's $50 mill to get a couple extra engineers.... it might just work.

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The economics of the parent companies are critical to a healthy budget. Fiat are a little tight on cash, and the Ferrari budget is not going to be as healthy as when they dominated for the last five years. Mercedes is a relatively healthy company, but presently, they have a small cash flow problem. Something about recalls and extra expenses. That will have an impact on the McLaren effort.
Heck, if you are good at reading the financial news and reading between the lines, you can get a respectable estimate of racing budgets.

Hudsonhawk
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OHHHHH right......

So your all saying that Shoie is just another driver and Ferrari are not competitive because they dont have enough funds to burn to make the car fast.....OHHHH silly me :shock: I should have thought of that.....I always thought it was shoie that made the difference :D

So much for the great shoie......It was all that money being pouring into the car that made shoie look like he was the worlds best driver. Looks like now he has been hung out to finish his career fighting with back markers ???? SO SAD !!

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im sorry dude i disagree.. shumy is a great driver in and out of the car.. he proved in the track by winning 7 titles and out of the track by keeping the right ppl around him..

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Hudsonhawk wrote:OHHHHH right......

So your all saying that Shoie is just another driver and Ferrari are not competitive because they dont have enough funds to burn to make the car fast.....OHHHH silly me :shock: I should have thought of that.....I always thought it was shoie that made the difference :D

So much for the great shoie......It was all that money being pouring into the car that made shoie look like he was the worlds best driver. Looks like now he has been hung out to finish his career fighting with back markers ???? SO SAD !!
I may not be the world's number one Schuey fan (for reasons we could all bore ourselves with :D ); but there is little doubt that he is one of the best DRIVERS out there, add that to his skills at bringing a team around him and refusing to be beaten and you have a GREAT on your hands.

Ever watched him close up on track? Very, very special. I still have a clear recollection of watching him when he was driving the Mercedes sports cars - in simple terms he was stunningly good, no one had heard of him then (well, hardly :wink: ) and it was clear to the meanest intelligence that you were watching someone out of the ordinary. Pin sharp accuracy, fast, aggressive and no mistakes - visibly quicker than any of his team mates.

Ever wondered why it is that when his car is dominant, his team mates seem to be able to get close to his pace - yet when the cars is less than good they are no-where?

He is very fast - simple as that. Also, any time that he has a car with the remotest chance of winning he seems to be able to pull a victory (or is that a wictory :lol: ) out of the hat - not many "quick" drivers around can make that claim (possibly only Kimi right now, with Alonso being 99% there too).

Final word, let's not forget that one reason he will have a fast car is his relentless refusal to accept less than the best - constant working & testing, driving the team & rewarding their efforts by maximising what he is given - this creates a virtuous circle. He completes the link between the merely "fast" and the "great".

Are you paying attention Mr Montoya? :twisted:

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Scuderia_Russ
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RH1300S wrote: visibly quicker than any of his team mates.
Frentzen and Wendlinger were quicker than Schu at Mercedes. Jochen Mass nearly didn't put Schu forward for F1 full stop! Imagine that will ya!
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Yes that is true, Frentzen and Wendlinger were quicker. Shuey than took over Frentzen’s girlfriend (another illegal move :wink: ) which lead to Frentzens bad driving (caused by depression :wink: ) and Wendliger had that terrible accident that ended his career.

Shuey is just good driver but without Eddie and Rubens (Max and Bernie too :wink: ) he'd finish career with not more than 3 titles and without Senna's death probably just one...

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Scuderia_Russ
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I agree with most of that but if you look at Senna's on track behaviour towards Schumacher in the years leading up to his death you could see he was under pressure when wheel to wheel with the German. They had a number of incidents with Schu ending up complaining about Senna's driving.
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Scuderia_Russ wrote:I agree with most of that but if you look at Senna's on track behaviour towards Schumacher in the years leading up to his death you could see he was under pressure when wheel to wheel with the German. They had a number of incidents with Schu ending up complaining about Senna's driving.
They drove only 2 full races as competition to one another, Senna died during 3 race while he was in the lead. That is not enough for any kind of judgment.