2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Do you think that Mclaren might have been left behind by the other three competitors?

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1 place penalty for Max. Will be interesting to see how he races Lando tomorrow

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Mclaren-Honda-1988 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 00:20
Do you think that Mclaren might have been left behind by the other three competitors?
2 tenths off pole? Nah. If Perez and Hamilton were ahead of McLaren too then I’d begin to wonder but they aren’t.
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Only 1 place grid penalty? Isn't the minimum 3 usually? Never seen an 1 place grid penalty before for that infringement.

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Mclaren-Honda-1988 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 00:48
Only 1 place grid penalty? Isn't the minimum 3 usually? Never seen an 1 place grid penalty before for that infringement.
We've never seen a grid penalty At all for one driver being in the way of another with both on the cooldown laps

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Mclaren-Honda-1988 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 00:48
Only 1 place grid penalty? Isn't the minimum 3 usually? Never seen an 1 place grid penalty before for that infringement.
I have never seen a grid penalty for impeding a driver on a cooldown lap, a driver on a hotlap, yes thats a 3 place grid penalty. Russell was even warned of the bunching on the radio, he just decided to drive straight into it.

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Max supposedly drives to the rules when it comes to wheel to wheel combat- looks like Russell drives to the rules when it comes to cool down laps :lol:
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From what I read both were on cooldown laps but Max was punished due to driving unnecessarily slow causing Russell to take an evasive action. Is 1 place grid penalty a good punishment for almost causing a collision?

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Ben1980 wrote:
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30 Nov 2024, 21:21
Ideally, I want a 2023 Red Bull season for Mclaren in 2025. If not, a good tight season from the start would be really good to see.
Margins between the teams and then the development margins being so tight that it's unlikely to be anything less than a brawl next year.
I really hope it is. I hope Mclaren having 2 dogs will help. I'm unsure on Lewis at Ferrari, no matter who RB have in, will not be as good, and Merc have someone old enough to be my son, so will take a while.
This may well turn out to be a deciding factor. 2 drivers who work together knowing what comes around goes around against 2 drivers who have their own scoreboard above that of the team. one of the cleverest and most important decisions of modern F1 in my opinion. Give today take tomorrow. both drivers and the team win out in the long run
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Stella commenting on probably what we are all feeling.
A lot of laptime needs to be found over the winter to be in the 2025 championship fights.

McLaren need to ‘raise’ the bar’
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10678213/
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CjC wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 12:51
Stella commenting on probably what we are all feeling.
A lot of laptime needs to be found over the winter to be in the 2025 championship fights.

McLaren need to ‘raise’ the bar’
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10678213/
Not so sure how much laptime there is to gain with these cars. Widening the working window is probably a bigger goal in general as it seems very easy to fall into traps with respect to car development.
Call a spade, a spade.

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f1isgood wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 13:26
CjC wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 12:51
Stella commenting on probably what we are all feeling.
A lot of laptime needs to be found over the winter to be in the 2025 championship fights.

McLaren need to ‘raise’ the bar’
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/mclar ... /10678213/
Not so sure how much laptime there is to gain with these cars. Widening the working window is probably a bigger goal in general as it seems very easy to fall into traps with respect to car development.
The answer is simple, they (Mclaren) are in different development plan/cylce to the other teams, they were slow at the start, fast in the middle and now again ''slow'' at the end. In addition, next year is an end of a rules era, so performance is converging on all fronts and next year will be a 0.1 up on one track and 0.2 down on another, similar to what has been going on for the 2nd half of this season, so whoever (I hope us) finds the best balance vs performance will win next year.
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As I mentioned a few days ago, Mclaren invested a lot of resource into 7 rear wings this season- I’m not saying that was a waste but to my non-technical observations out of the top 4 Mclaren haven’t developed the floor much.

For example Ferrari, who Stella claims have the fastest car… their edge wing (on what is probably their 2025 floor) is significantly more mature than McLarens edge wing. I know it’s all about what you can’t see with these floors but the fact Ferrari are developing their edge wing must mean their under floor which we can’t see must be extremely mature as well.

Whether there is a lot of laptime to still be found- we’ll only find out next season- I have my doubts that there is much to find but currently only the teams know
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For now the team's target is to have both drivers finish in front of the Ferraris. The question is if Piastri will need the help of Norris cause Norris has to be as close to the first two as possible or try to pass them and I am not sure if he will cover for him the whole race.

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Been to watch Paddington in Peru, quite enjoyed it. Now home and getting ready for Mclaren in Qatar. Hope to enjoy that aswell.