2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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wtf even happened... I hope to see some analysis of the yellow flag, which was on/off on finish straight, if Lando was the only one who did not lift and WHY he did not lift... and the 10sec stop/go is insane, I can't believe they just decided yeah, this is a good time after x years to pull out stop/go penalty for no reason... ffs I can't believe this

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Seerix wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:59
wtf even happened... I hope to see some analysis of the yellow flag, which was on/off on finish straight, if Lando was the only one who did not lift and WHY he did not lift... and the 10sec stop/go is insane, I can't believe they just decided yeah, this is a good time after x years to pull out stop/go penalty for no reason... ffs I can't believe this
clear double yellows, penalty is severe but probably because he used drs as well


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bananapeel23
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Seerix wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 19:59
wtf even happened... I hope to see some analysis of the yellow flag, which was on/off on finish straight, if Lando was the only one who did not lift and WHY he did not lift... and the 10sec stop/go is insane, I can't believe they just decided yeah, this is a good time after x years to pull out stop/go penalty for no reason... ffs I can't believe this
There have been stop go penalties served this season I’m fairly sure.

I agree it was way too harsh here though.

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Am I missing something? There are blue flags for Bottas, then on the straight there is a slippery surface flag and then maybe a split second for a yellow that turns into green.

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hm, seems the yellow just appeared as he was going past it... did he not see it or smth? I do not see it on his steering wheel, it should be there as well
weird

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If this is it, the penalty is completely unfair.

A shame it's a type of penalty that you can't really appeal against. The time has been served.

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Juzh
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FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:02
Am I missing something? There are blue flags for Bottas, then on the straight there is a slippery surface flag and then maybe a split second for a yellow that turns into green.
double waved yellows:

Image

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mwillems
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Looks to me like the board didn't light up yellow until he was passing it, and then immediately a green after.
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Juzh wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:05
FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:02
Am I missing something? There are blue flags for Bottas, then on the straight there is a slippery surface flag and then maybe a split second for a yellow that turns into green.
double waved yellows:

https://i.imgur.com/Cr25Q4T.jpeg
thanks, this is good screenshot

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A bit unfortunate, was probably looking at the flashing board and missed the marshals.

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mwillems
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Juzh wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:05
FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:02
Am I missing something? There are blue flags for Bottas, then on the straight there is a slippery surface flag and then maybe a split second for a yellow that turns into green.
double waved yellows:

https://i.imgur.com/Cr25Q4T.jpeg
With a flashing green right ahead ready to take your attention.

30m between yellow and green., what was he to do.
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Juzh wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:05
FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:02
Am I missing something? There are blue flags for Bottas, then on the straight there is a slippery surface flag and then maybe a split second for a yellow that turns into green.
double waved yellows:

https://i.imgur.com/Cr25Q4T.jpeg
OK. That is a double waved yellow on a straight with a big flag board just behind it that either is green throughout or turns green almost immediately. To get a 10s stop and go for what could be a genuine mistake (if he was changing anything on his dash he would miss that singular flag waver) is completely unfair.

They could have gone +5s or +10s and it would have been a harsh penalty as well but it could be understood. We'll see much more problems with this type of harsh stewarding if it continues. Verstappen will be black flagged if he fights like he did this year.

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Juzh wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:05
FittingMechanics wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:02
Am I missing something? There are blue flags for Bottas, then on the straight there is a slippery surface flag and then maybe a split second for a yellow that turns into green.
double waved yellows:
Nice spot!

I was looking trackside as carefully as I could and missed it, so probably not surprising Norris missed it at 200mph at night.

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mwillems
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If there is an instruction to be harsher with the penalties, it should be announced and not learnt after they are dished out.
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SilviuAgo
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Yellow, no yellow, double yellow, pale yellow, dark yellow, light yellow....we are talking for nothing. Could have been pink, double pink or lgbt flag, the result would have been the same. The stewards mission was today to take the WCC fight to the last race. In order that LibertyMedia and FIA to may count millions and millions of usd. And they delivered.
I only hope that there is a Motorsport God and the payback will come in a week time.
I am totally disgusted of what I saw today. I never thought that they may be so dirty. As HAM said "cash is king".$$$