2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Rodak
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AR3-GP wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 22:45
In fairness to Mercedes, it was a sprint weekend, so that may have prevented them from getting the car dialed in. I'm sure they'd do things differently with the setup now.

Maybe it was the effect that Toto had predicted for Las Vegas (that as the track rubbered in more, Mercedes would fall back).
Yeah, except everyone is in the same situation.

GrizzleBoy
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Waz wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 07:23
I don't understand the attitude of Lewis just checking out. The car has been capable of racing near the front and fighting for podiums all season. That's all he's getting at Ferrari next year too, so this idea that he will be rejuvenated seems more like wishful thinking or deflection.

Mercedes are lucky that Russell is such a scrapper, like a little mongrel fighting off a bigger dog.
I think it's more like he's probably just tired of all the political bull that comes with leaving a team.

-Impossible to gain no.1 status.

-Even if you are able to get ahead in the standings, you'll never feel like that's where the team wants you to be, for their own obvious reasons.

-Unable to have as much of a say in areas he could be instrumental before.

-Team will never develop the car around driver who is not going to be driving it.

-The feel of effectively spending the entire year as a Ferrari driver while still being at Merc.

-Being understandably excused from important/sensitive discussions and meetings about the workings of the car for this year, next year, definitely 2026 and forevermore.

-BS like having multiple pit lane starts from mechanics accidentally not building his suspension parts correctly, the Singapore GP start where he inexplicably was put onto the tyre nobody wanted/used and which he asked not to be on, tyre temps not being right out of the blankets, kept in the dark about George's one stop at Spa (mentioning after that he's supposed to be able to trust his strategists).

-Not being able to really say much of what he actually thinks when asked week after week about what he feels is his problem


It's probably just a shitty situation all round, probably been like that for the entire year and he's just tired of it all now.

Cs98
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Rodak wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 07:24
Cs98 wrote:
01 Dec 2024, 20:23
Russell vs Hamilton H2H 2022-2024 (one race to go):
Points: 685 vs 685
Season H2H: 2 vs 1 (calling 2024 after today).
Wins: 3 vs 2
Poles: 5 vs 1
Podiums: 14 vs 20
Care to decode this a bit for us dummies? H2H etc?
Head to head.

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Quantum
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GrizzleBoy wrote:
02 Dec 2024, 08:43

-BS like having multiple pit lane starts from mechanics accidentally not building his suspension parts correctly, the Singapore GP start where he inexplicably was put onto the tyre nobody wanted/used and which he asked not to be on, tyre temps not being right out of the blankets, kept in the dark about George's one stop at Spa (mentioning after that he's supposed to be able to trust his strategists).
This implies Hamilton started from pitlane systemically due to mechanics stitching him up.
Azerbaijan was for a PU, and those rules apply to everyone.
US GP was for a component failure in the sprint race, everyone is at risk of this in a season.
AFAIK that was 2 incidents.
Singapore was a gamble the team wanted to try. Of course if it worked we would be talking about how brilliant the Hamilton drive was.
Kept in the dark on Russell's Spa strategy implies it was set before the start of the race. It wasn't.
Telling Hamilton what Russell was doing would mean telling everyone else.

20 second penalty for driving too fast in the pitlane in Miami
Jump starting yesterday incurring a penalty.
5 second penalty for crossing the white line at pitlane entry in Austria.
3 place grid penalty for impeding Perez at Zandvoort.

Which indicates that Hamilton isn't perfect. He doesn't pertain to be either (to his credit).

Bemoaning team issues like PU changes and strategy gambles which every driver gets in a season, should also be tempered with elementary driver errors like jump starting or speeding in the pitlane. As neither party is perfect.
I say this because I believe many Hamilton fans think the move to Ferrari will somehow magically make these issues go away.
If those are the expectation levels, 2025 will make 2024 look like a serene walk in the park.
"Interplay of triads"

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