2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[sport777]

Can anyone check the top speed? There is information that Charles had 7 km/h less than Lando and Sky Italia kind of claims that Charles was more loaded with fuel.

yes, it is true that Leclerc was 5-10 km slower than Norris on the straights during the entire race simulation, and even Antonella was also about 5 tenths slower than Norris on the first sector on average

[deadhead]

Seems like a lot of analysts are settling on 3 tenths being the actual difference.

More or less in line with the average from 2024 (post miami gp)

Too many variables anyway. We have to wait for q3 and first few races

[Macklaren]

Can anyone check the top speed? There is information that Charles had 7 km/h less than Lando and Sky Italia kind of claims that Charles was more loaded with fuel.

this is the fastest lap tho

[Xyz22]

Looking at telemetry compared to McLaren they are struggling in turn 8.
In multiple laps in that corner there is the biggest % of the total gap.

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Looking at telemetry compared to McLaren they are struggling in turn 8.
In multiple laps in that corner there is the biggest % of the total gap.

can you share a link to it?

[Venturiation]

What is the consensus for now? Ferrari behind mclaren or 3rd?

[dialtone]

What is the consensus for now? Ferrari behind mclaren or 3rd?

Nobody knows, seems a bit behind timing wise, but lots of variables unknown, especially with that good one lap time.

[CjC]

Lawrence reckons Ferrari are still ‘top of the pile’

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... erXJt.html

[DGP123]

Lawrence reckons Ferrari are still ‘top of the pile’

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... erXJt.html

He wants clicks/views, and knows who the draw is. Seen others in regards to Hamilton/Ferrari and setting searing lap times, when in fact they haven’t.

McLaren are top dogs. People want the landscape to change, but in reality, it rarely does. Seems others have made wholesale changes over the winter in an attempt to close the gap, when McLaren have had continuity with their concept, and as of right now, a clear understanding of their package. That’s what the lap times/runs reflect.

Early days, but I’d imagine Ferrari are 3/4 tenths off McL, with Max somewhere in between.

[Xyz22]

Lawrence reckons Ferrari are still ‘top of the pile’

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... erXJt.html

He wants clicks/views, and knows who the draw is. Seen others in regards to Hamilton/Ferrari and setting searing lap times, when in fact they haven’t.

McLaren are top dogs. People want the landscape to change, but in reality, it rarely does. Seems others have made wholesale changes over the winter in an attempt to close the gap, when McLaren have had continuity with their concept, and as of right now, a clear understanding of their package. That’s what the lap times/runs reflect.

Early days, but I’d imagine Ferrari are 3/4 tenths off McL, with Max somewhere in between.

How do you know Max is closer to McL? Also, we know nothing about Leclerc and Lewis relative pace to each other.

[FittingMechanics]

It seems like Leclerc was derating at the end of some of the straights for most of the laps, suggesting a conservative engine mode. If you trust the telemetry though, adding up the losses of that derating at the end of the straights does not make up more than 2 tenths of laptime.

From the telemetry I saw, he was not losing out on the start-finish straight but rather on some of the straights in the middle sector. Why would this be the case if it was an engine mode? Isn't it more likely to be different deployment or maybe just worse traction out of those slow corners?

I quickly pulled this comparison, both in their first stints. It does seem like LEC is slower on start/finish as well, but not as obvious as he reached higher top speed before that.

[Xyz22]

It seems like Leclerc was derating at the end of some of the straights for most of the laps, suggesting a conservative engine mode. If you trust the telemetry though, adding up the losses of that derating at the end of the straights does not make up more than 2 tenths of laptime.

From the telemetry I saw, he was not losing out on the start-finish straight but rather on some of the straights in the middle sector. Why would this be the case if it was an engine mode? Isn't it more likely to be different deployment or maybe just worse traction out of those slow corners?

I quickly pulled this comparison, both in their first stints. It does seem like LEC is slower on start/finish as well, but not as obvious as he reached higher top speed before that.
https://i.imgur.com/55PT96O.png

Turn 8 and turn 10 RIP

One day i'll see a Ferrari competitive in all corners once again

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[SoulPancake13]

Ferrari seems to be struggling for traction compared to McLaren for right now - they out accelerate us in every traction zone basically, T8 and T10 being the worst culprits.

Let's see if it is just a mechanical issue or if they just lack some load compared to McLaren.