2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[Jambier]

without fixing the current issue with current facility, how they can prepare a 2026 challenger? So I am 100% sure, Newly will work on fixing current year car with the current facility and technology before moving into next year car. else we will be ending up with same situation and debate in 2026.

Agreed. He needs to work at least a quarter on the current car, correlation, technical team before being able to work on 26

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

I don't remember the article or if it's even true, but Alonso allegedly said the car felt different in the simulator compared to the one on track.

Maybe true,but in the simulator wasn't 15 C degree for sure.Was an extreme 3 day with the rain,electric problems,telemetry problems ,cold,wind and Stroll.Nothing was ideal for an f1 test honestly.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

Why you guys keep saying, there are a problem with the car? I mean they didn't even was pushing or try fast lap. As I remember AM fastest lap was with stroll at 2nd day at 6 lap old C3 1:30.2 which i wouldn't say terrible. They never send out the car for 1 lap either. They always went at least 5 lap befor the box which a lot of fuel! They made pushing laps cool down,push laps cool down ,push lap and box. Alonso did it 2 or 3 times and Stroll 2 times at whole 3 day . You can see on telemetry that they top speed always was 310-311 except Stroll fastest lap which was 314km/h. You can see at telemetry also that they much better at slow corners and out of corners than Mercedes and Ferrari. So keep calm and enjoy this year F1 because the car is good, I men much better than it's look and way better than last year.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

without fixing the current issue with current facility, how they can prepare a 2026 challenger? So I am 100% sure, Newly will work on fixing current year car with the current facility and technology before moving into next year car. else we will be ending up with same situation and debate in 2026.

https://www.f1-tempo.com/
Go here and show me a telemetry with issue at same old tyres,at same level of fuel and same same engine mode! I waiting...

[Rikrikrik]

Cardille still doesn't work at Aston, and not even this year, What a news.

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/aston-ma ... 06940.html

Ugh... any other surprises?

Yes, of course. The new wind tunnel is not operational too, and, still being a promise.
https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/20 ... lunes.html

[peewon]

Cardille still doesn't work at Aston, and not even this year, What a news.

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/aston-ma ... 06940.html

Ugh... any other surprises?

Yes, of course. The new wind tunnel is not operational too, and, still being a promise.
https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/20 ... lunes.html

He mentions that its still in the commissioning phase. PDR is usually optimistic in his words but even if we assume the commissioning is finished this month, it still requires one month of correlation testing. So realistically the wind tunnel is probably not available before May/June at the earliest. This assume commissioning is actually completed which can be an extremely complicated thing if it goes wrong. The countdown to 2026 being a write off is on.

[peewon]

Why you guys keep saying, there are a problem with the car? I mean they didn't even was pushing or try fast lap. As I remember AM fastest lap was with stroll at 2nd day at 6 lap old C3 1:30.2 which i wouldn't say terrible. They never send out the car for 1 lap either. They always went at least 5 lap befor the box which a lot of fuel! They made pushing laps cool down,push laps cool down ,push lap and box. Alonso did it 2 or 3 times and Stroll 2 times at whole 3 day . You can see on telemetry that they top speed always was 310-311 except Stroll fastest lap which was 314km/h. You can see at telemetry also that they much better at slow corners and out of corners than Mercedes and Ferrari. So keep calm and enjoy this year F1 because the car is good, I men much better than it's look and way better than last year.

Their one lap pace might be fine but its been apparent from the lap times and confirmed by Spanish journos that the tyre wear is abysmal. Similar to last year. F1 media also get feedback from people they talk to in the paddock as teams have more detailed info and most people think Aston will struggle big time. They might be bottom 2.

[TyreSlip]

Cardille still doesn't work at Aston, and not even this year, What a news.

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/aston-ma ... 06940.html

Ugh... any other surprises?

Yes, of course. The new wind tunnel is not operational too, and, still being a promise.
https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/20 ... lunes.html

I knew the wind tunnel was delayed, but from another source, the wind tunnel was not supposed to be operational until summer. De la Rosa is saying it will be ready in a month, which gives me some relief.

[kptaylor]

Do the FIA have people stationed at each of the teams' wind tunnels, or do they install their own electronic monitoring systems to be able to determine whether any usage is attributable to an F1 program? I'd assume this piece tends to slow down any certification process prior to it being fully operational for the AM F1 team.

[RedNEO]

Im more excited for Newey starting tomorrow and the new wind tunnel to go online later this month than I ever was for testing. The main aim is try and get Neweys expertise in the suspension to give them some quick performance for the first couple of races while they work on a more substantial fix for race 4 or 5. Let’s see what we can do.

[NAPI10]

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/alon ... ectations/

Some interesting comments by Alonso -
"The car itself is basically the '24 car, it's only the outside and all the aerodynamic parts that did change a lot, for performance," said Alonso.

"But let's say the engines, radiators, driveshafts, suspension - everything is the same as '24 so we don't need the normal race distances and so many laps like we will need next year, probably, when it's crucial to test the reliability."

If only change on AMR25 over AMR24 is 'Aero Surface' ; expecting any progress over Abu Dhabi(where AM was 8th fastest) is useless. Does that mean, AM is waiting on Newey to analyze & provide direction to build 'AMR25-B Spec'?
Pre-season testing seems to be a data gathering exercise for Spec-B.

[quincalla]

I guess what he means is that they carried over the chassis. I'm sure they are not the only ones doing that, I remember that being a talking point from preseason testing last year.

[the EDGE]

Why you guys keep saying, there are a problem with the car? I mean they didn't even was pushing or try fast lap. As I remember AM fastest lap was with stroll at 2nd day at 6 lap old C3 1:30.2 which i wouldn't say terrible. They never send out the car for 1 lap either. They always went at least 5 lap befor the box which a lot of fuel! They made pushing laps cool down,push laps cool down ,push lap and box. Alonso did it 2 or 3 times and Stroll 2 times at whole 3 day . You can see on telemetry that they top speed always was 310-311 except Stroll fastest lap which was 314km/h. You can see at telemetry also that they much better at slow corners and out of corners than Mercedes and Ferrari. So keep calm and enjoy this year F1 because the car is good, I men much better than it's look and way better than last year.

Their one lap pace might be fine but its been apparent from the lap times and confirmed by Spanish journos that the tyre wear is abysmal. Similar to last year. F1 media also get feedback from people they talk to in the paddock as teams have more detailed info and most people think Aston will struggle big time. They might be bottom 2.

Ted Kravitz said Lawrence Stroll told him the car was not an improvement over last year

[Waz]

On one hand, you can see a logical business reason behind this decision of largely carrying over the 24 car.

The team has been without a proper Technical Director to oversee the 25 car, the new TD has been delayed, and the main focus over the last few months has been to finish the new factory so that it can be used.

Creating a 25 specific car under those conditions would have been a high risk waste of resources.

[Jambier]

If we want to be positive they seem to be 7th for now.
They can finish p5 if they work well this year.

If they don’t well I think 26/27 will be missed as well and it will take time to have something working