2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[SSJ4]

He probably saw the state of the amr 25 and decided to sack fallows for the 2nd time

[taperoo2k]

I wouldn't think AMR would sacrifice this year completely. Considering 2026, it will be very difficult to be competitive on the first year, new engine, own suspension and gearbox.

They will need to use 2025 to ensure the team is working in synch across all departments, using the 2025 car to ensure the wind tunnel and on track performance correlates etc.

Also the testing done by AMR was not standard as done by other team, they maybe testing something for a B Spec, i am hoping for some Suprise.

It's pretty much the same mechnical platform as 2024, so they don't need to do the same kind of testing as the other teams. Any changes to the AMR 25 car will likely be on the aero side with upgrades already in the pipeline.
Newey will of course be focused on the '26 car, but I wouldn't be too surprised if he makes suggestions for setup changes on the '25 car at the races he attends this season.

A surprise from AMR would be doing better in terms of points than most are expecting.

[Waz]

The italian Court decided in favour of a italian team, my god, such a huge surprise for me....

Cardille just begins in July 18.

Aston wanted Cardille starting with Newey today, so, now, Cardille not participe the early stages for 2026 car. A huge disadvantage.


https://www.formulapassion.it/f1/f1-new ... ton-martin

The Italian Court decided in favour of the employer (italian company) and not the employee (italian citizen). Don't play the national card, that's not ok.

AMR can still reach an (financial) agreement with Ferrari do get Cardile earlier.

I'm a bit surprised by the lack of social media fanfare for AN arrival yesterday.

I am not, he seems to be the guy who wants to be appreciated and likes to work in peace, but not the guy who needs any (social media) attention.

They had already reached an agreement for Cardile to start now with Newey, but reports are that Cardile has been seen working at the factory since January.

They must be an oversight in communication surely, because AM aren't that desperate to risk breaking terms like this.

[diffuser]

It's pretty much the same mechnical platform as 2024, so they don't need to do the same kind of testing as the other teams. Any changes to the AMR 25 car will likely be on the aero side with upgrades already in the pipeline.
Newey will of course be focused on the '26 car, but I wouldn't be too surprised if he makes suggestions for setup changes on the '25 car at the races he attends this season.

A surprise from AMR would be doing better in terms of points than most are expecting.

That is the Company line but it also could be viewed as hiding their true pace(be it good or bad). I'm mindful of that.

[diffuser]

Just posted a comparison of the AMR24 vs AMR25 Diffusers, It's Massive. They've decreased the slope but longer. Opened up alot of space.

[-wkst-]

The italian Court decided in favour of a italian team, my god, such a huge surprise for me....

Cardille just begins in July 18.

Aston wanted Cardille starting with Newey today, so, now, Cardille not participe the early stages for 2026 car. A huge disadvantage.


https://www.formulapassion.it/f1/f1-new ... ton-martin

The Italian Court decided in favour of the employer (italian company) and not the employee (italian citizen). Don't play the national card, that's not ok.

AMR can still reach an (financial) agreement with Ferrari do get Cardile earlier.

I'm a bit surprised by the lack of social media fanfare for AN arrival yesterday.

I am not, he seems to be the guy who wants to be appreciated and likes to work in peace, but not the guy who needs any (social media) attention.

They had already reached an agreement for Cardile to start now with Newey, but reports are that Cardile has been seen working at the factory since January.

They must be an oversight in communication surely, because AM aren't that desperate to risk breaking terms like this.

I think that answers some questions.

https://racer.com/2025/03/04/ferrari-wi ... g-at-asto/

Ferrari wins legal case to delay Cardile starting at Aston
By Chris Medland | March 4, 2025 9:40 AM ET

Enrico Cardile will not be able to start work with Aston Martin until July of this year after Ferrari won a legal case involving its former technical director.

Ferrari announced that Cardile was leaving his role as technical director (chassis area) in July 2024, with Aston Martin then confirming he would join the team as its chief technical officer in 2025. However, with uncertainty relating to his start date – Aston Martin team principal Andy Cowell avoided answering questions relating to Cardile during pre-season testing – Ferrari has now confirmed it has won a court case that prevents the Italian from joining for another four months.

“With reference to the recent news regarding the timing of Enrico Cardile’s arrival at Aston Martin, Ferrari clarifies that a few weeks ago the Court of Modena, upholding the requests of the Company, ordered Enrico Cardile to immediately cease any form of collaboration with Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team until next July 18th,” a Ferrari statement read.

“In this urgent procedural phase, the Court of Modena found that our former employee was already violating the non-compete commitment with Ferrari, whose purpose was precisely to prevent other F1 teams from gaining an unjustified competitive advantage by hiring Cardile earlier than allowed, causing irreparable harm to Ferrari.”

An Aston Martin spokesperson told the BBC: “This is a matter between Enrico and Ferrari and their legal representatives in Italy, and the parties continue to be engaged in the process. As such we won’t be making any further comment. We will make an announcement in due course.”

When Cardile was announced as a new Aston Martin signing, the team described him as “a key appointment for the team as we build towards the new 2026 regulations”, but the delay in his arrival will limit the impact the can have on the new car, with teams having been able to begin full work on the 2026 regulations in January.

Should Aston Martin still want to bring Cardile’s start date forward it will need to reach a further agreement with Ferrari, something it has been unable to do up to this point. The team did welcome another key technical figure this week, with Adrian Newey starting work on Monday having joined from Red Bull.

[zoroastar]

The Italian Court decided in favour of the employer (italian company) and not the employee (italian citizen). Don't play the national card, that's not ok.

AMR can still reach an (financial) agreement with Ferrari do get Cardile earlier.




I am not, he seems to be the guy who wants to be appreciated and likes to work in peace, but not the guy who needs any (social media) attention.

They had already reached an agreement for Cardile to start now with Newey, but reports are that Cardile has been seen working at the factory since January.

They must be an oversight in communication surely, because AM aren't that desperate to risk breaking terms like this.

I think that answers some questions.

https://racer.com/2025/03/04/ferrari-wi ... g-at-asto/

Ferrari wins legal case to delay Cardile starting at Aston
By Chris Medland | March 4, 2025 9:40 AM ET

Enrico Cardile will not be able to start work with Aston Martin until July of this year after Ferrari won a legal case involving its former technical director.

Ferrari announced that Cardile was leaving his role as technical director (chassis area) in July 2024, with Aston Martin then confirming he would join the team as its chief technical officer in 2025. However, with uncertainty relating to his start date – Aston Martin team principal Andy Cowell avoided answering questions relating to Cardile during pre-season testing – Ferrari has now confirmed it has won a court case that prevents the Italian from joining for another four months.

“With reference to the recent news regarding the timing of Enrico Cardile’s arrival at Aston Martin, Ferrari clarifies that a few weeks ago the Court of Modena, upholding the requests of the Company, ordered Enrico Cardile to immediately cease any form of collaboration with Aston Martin Aramco F1 Team until next July 18th,” a Ferrari statement read.

“In this urgent procedural phase, the Court of Modena found that our former employee was already violating the non-compete commitment with Ferrari, whose purpose was precisely to prevent other F1 teams from gaining an unjustified competitive advantage by hiring Cardile earlier than allowed, causing irreparable harm to Ferrari.”

An Aston Martin spokesperson told the BBC: “This is a matter between Enrico and Ferrari and their legal representatives in Italy, and the parties continue to be engaged in the process. As such we won’t be making any further comment. We will make an announcement in due course.”

When Cardile was announced as a new Aston Martin signing, the team described him as “a key appointment for the team as we build towards the new 2026 regulations”, but the delay in his arrival will limit the impact the can have on the new car, with teams having been able to begin full work on the 2026 regulations in January.

Should Aston Martin still want to bring Cardile’s start date forward it will need to reach a further agreement with Ferrari, something it has been unable to do up to this point. The team did welcome another key technical figure this week, with Adrian Newey starting work on Monday having joined from Red Bull.

how in the world did this happen. imsure its happened before, but not that i remember. looks like a case of believing the media instead of looking at what was written in the actual contract.i wonder how much he actually got to work at the factory before they sent him his cease and desist letter. its one thing after another. if hes on the list of the teams top 3 that are exempt from the cap, i wonder if paying ferrari off would go against the cap in order to get him in the factory before july

[Rikrikrik]

After all, Aston changed their plans. Bell will be TD until Cardille arrive (July 18 th). He and Blandin will be focus on AMR25. Here we have a such nive information ...FIA allows you to have one tunnel per project only So guys. AMR25 will never see the new wind tunnel and they gave up to work on their 2026 until now car because the new wind tunnel is not ready, and this happen when first trimester ends ( final march, like De La Rosa said). And they will compensate this delay giving up more Wind Tunnel hours for Newey and this will make the AMR26 will be more Newey influence than expected inicially. I really dont know what will happen next year, but, week after week look less promising.
https://www.motor.es/formula-1/aston-ma ... 06998.html

[diffuser]

With any luck, he has been working since Jan 1 and only now has to stopped. In that case, in July when he starts, he hits the ground running.

I had read he setup the Ferrari win d tunnel, I wonder if that's what he was working on.

[zoroastar]

After all, Aston changed their plans. Bell will be TD until Cardille arrive (July 18 th). He and Blandin will be focus on AMR25. Here we have a such nive information ...FIA allows you to have one tunnel per project only So guys. AMR25 will never see the new wind tunnel and they gave up to work on their 2026 until now car because the new wind tunnel is not ready, and this happen when first trimester ends ( final march, like De La Rosa said). And they will compensate this delay giving up more Wind Tunnel hours for Newey and this will make the AMR26 will be more Newey influence than expected inicially. I really dont know what will happen next year, but, week after week look less promising.
https://www.motor.es/formula-1/aston-ma ... 06998.html

newey has a lot to straighten out. but i think thats the reason he wanted to go to aston as apposed to any other team on the grid. aston is going to be his team in a lot of ways. that wouldnt have happened at ferrari, mclaren or mercedes. too many cooks in the kitchen. aston was the only team with the budget and now, tools to succeed, without waiting several years to come up to speed (williams), to be a championship team. hopefully that is worth it to alonso to keep on keeping on until it comes to reality

[TeamKoolGreen]

Depending on how the car is performance-wise compared to the rest of the pack, it may be prudent to occasionally put Drugovich (maybe Vandoorne too) in the race seat if this season is a write-off, considering the long season and overall well-being of their starting drivers. He may not be re-signed for 2026 so it may be the appropriate decision to at least give them race opportunities this year and gauge their performance against Fernando and Lance.

Writing off 2025 and the prospect of Fernando Alonso getting beat by Williams drivers this year is just tragic. And that's why it shouldn't happen. Astons brand would suffer also.

They have the talent, it shouldn't happen

[diffuser]

I'm pretty excited about the 2025 diffuser, big departure from 2024. Maybe they've found something.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

Depending on how the car is performance-wise compared to the rest of the pack, it may be prudent to occasionally put Drugovich (maybe Vandoorne too) in the race seat if this season is a write-off, considering the long season and overall well-being of their starting drivers. He may not be re-signed for 2026 so it may be the appropriate decision to at least give them race opportunities this year and gauge their performance against Fernando and Lance.

Writing off 2025 and the prospect of Fernando Alonso getting beat by Williams drivers this year is just tragic. And that's why it shouldn't happen. Astons brand would suffer also.

They have the talent, it shouldn't happen

AM faster than Williams and Alpine, calm down

[-wkst-]

After all, Aston changed their plans. Bell will be TD until Cardille arrive (July 18 th). He and Blandin will be focus on AMR25. Here we have a such nive information ...FIA allows you to have one tunnel per project only So guys. AMR25 will never see the new wind tunnel and they gave up to work on their 2026 until now car because the new wind tunnel is not ready, and this happen when first trimester ends ( final march, like De La Rosa said). And they will compensate this delay giving up more Wind Tunnel hours for Newey and this will make the AMR26 will be more Newey influence than expected inicially. I really dont know what will happen next year, but, week after week look less promising.
https://www.motor.es/formula-1/aston-ma ... 06998.html

This site an author are not very reliable.

First of all I doubt that it is true that you can only work with 1 tunnel/car model. When I read the FIA sporting regulations some weeks ago I remember that there are some exceptions. Like your tunnel has a failure. Obviously you can't wait weeks or even months for the repair. If you have a new tunnel ready you can declare it.

Krack told moreover already in Abu Dhabi that the new wind tunnel will be ready in 2-3 months (which is about now). So was it delayed alredy in December, or just in plan? I don't know, I doubt the author knows.

Last thing is the wind tunnel test times. As the rules are very clear, you can not save tunnel testing time (for example doing less runs in Januray and February and therefore more for exmpale in June and July). First ATR ended last sunday, whether you used your CFD and tunnel hours or not.

[Rikrikrik]

After all, Aston changed their plans. Bell will be TD until Cardille arrive (July 18 th). He and Blandin will be focus on AMR25. Here we have a such nive information ...FIA allows you to have one tunnel per project only So guys. AMR25 will never see the new wind tunnel and they gave up to work on their 2026 until now car because the new wind tunnel is not ready, and this happen when first trimester ends ( final march, like De La Rosa said). And they will compensate this delay giving up more Wind Tunnel hours for Newey and this will make the AMR26 will be more Newey influence than expected inicially. I really dont know what will happen next year, but, week after week look less promising.
https://www.motor.es/formula-1/aston-ma ... 06998.html

This site an author are not very reliable.

First of all I doubt that it is true that you can only work with 1 tunnel/car model. When I read the FIA sporting regulations some weeks ago I remember that there are some exceptions. Like your tunnel has a failure. Obviously you can't wait weeks or even months for the repair. If you have a new tunnel ready you can declare it.

Krack told moreover already in Abu Dhabi that the new wind tunnel will be ready in 2-3 months (which is about now). So was it delayed alredy in December, or just in plan? I don't know, I doubt the author knows.

Last thing is the wind tunnel test times. As the rules are very clear, you can not save tunnel testing time (for example doing less runs in Januray and February and therefore more for exmpale in June and July). First ATR ended last sunday, whether you used your CFD and tunnel hours or not.

We never know, but De La Rosa said last week wind tunnel still no working on full capacity, and he said "until march ends"