2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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Multiple sources are saying aston Martin prepared a place for Adrian Newey to sleep at the factory.

This was at Newey's request, who is prepared to work overnight on the 2026 car.

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FW17 wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 11:01
RedNEO wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 09:32
https://ibb.co/fVR1H6Q0
That looks like a small space
I mean, it's a pretty decently sized office. That's plenty of space. It's not like Newey will build the entire car in his office, he will just design things.
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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 02:06
Xyz22 wrote:
02 Mar 2025, 20:24
NAPI10 wrote:
02 Mar 2025, 18:47
https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/alon ... ectations/

Some interesting comments by Alonso -
"The car itself is basically the '24 car, it's only the outside and all the aerodynamic parts that did change a lot, for performance," said Alonso.

"But let's say the engines, radiators, driveshafts, suspension - everything is the same as '24 so we don't need the normal race distances and so many laps like we will need next year, probably, when it's crucial to test the reliability."

If only change on AMR25 over AMR24 is 'Aero Surface' ; expecting any progress over Abu Dhabi(where AM was 8th fastest) is useless. Does that mean, AM is waiting on Newey to analyze & provide direction to build 'AMR25-B Spec'?
Pre-season testing seems to be a data gathering exercise for Spec-B.
They won't build a spec 2, the AMR 25 is the AMR 24 spec 2. They didn't change chassis and everything else to save the money for the 2026 which is the big goal, in fact is the project Newey will focus on.

It doesn't make sense to work on 2025. It will be painful but necessary at this point.
As I know, nobody allow to stack money up. I mean they can't spend more than cost cap a year ,doesn't matter if you spent nothing or all the cost cap.
You could divert money to the 2026 car sooner, which is the same thing. The problem with that is, alot of the stuff for 2026 is still in Design, so there isn't alot of need for Carbon being built yet. What do you do with those guys ? They could probably build alot of the Carbon for the 2026 car in 2 to 3 months. So we're talking end of November 2025.

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diffuser wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 18:17
OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 02:06
Xyz22 wrote:
02 Mar 2025, 20:24


They won't build a spec 2, the AMR 25 is the AMR 24 spec 2. They didn't change chassis and everything else to save the money for the 2026 which is the big goal, in fact is the project Newey will focus on.

It doesn't make sense to work on 2025. It will be painful but necessary at this point.
As I know, nobody allow to stack money up. I mean they can't spend more than cost cap a year ,doesn't matter if you spent nothing or all the cost cap.
You could divert money to the 2026 car sooner, which is the same thing. The problem with that is, alot of the stuff for 2026 is still in Design, so there isn't alot of need for Carbon being built yet. What do you do with those guys ? They could probably build alot of the Carbon for the 2026 car in 2 to 3 months. So we're talking end of November 2025.
If AMR25 is indeed 8th or 9th fastest car on the grid then might as well use it as a 'Testing Mule' to test wind tunnel correlation , AMR26 concepts on different tracks.

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There should be enough talent at Aston Martin to make the 2025 car an upper mid pack competitor even if they aren't trying that hard. If they aren't at least at the same level as Alpine , then they're really doing something wrong

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TeamKoolGreen wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 19:59
There should be enough talent at Aston Martin to make the 2025 car an upper mid pack competitor even if they aren't trying that hard. If they aren't at least at the same level as Alpine , then they're really doing something wrong
Upper mid pack competitor ? Who said that? You guys are crazy! It was just a test,but yeah Williams will fight for podium with Alpine and the Ferrari with midfield and Aston with the Sauber. Redbull Mercedes won't even fit to podium. You guys lol!

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NAPI10 wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 18:59
diffuser wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 18:17
OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
03 Mar 2025, 02:06


As I know, nobody allow to stack money up. I mean they can't spend more than cost cap a year ,doesn't matter if you spent nothing or all the cost cap.
You could divert money to the 2026 car sooner, which is the same thing. The problem with that is, alot of the stuff for 2026 is still in Design, so there isn't alot of need for Carbon being built yet. What do you do with those guys ? They could probably build alot of the Carbon for the 2026 car in 2 to 3 months. So we're talking end of November 2025.
If AMR25 is indeed 8th or 9th fastest car on the grid then might as well use it as a 'Testing Mule' to test wind tunnel correlation , AMR26 concepts on different tracks.
That will happen regardless of how well they do.

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The italian Court decided in favour of a italian team, my god, such a huge surprise for me.... :roll:

Cardille just begins in July 18.

Aston wanted Cardille starting with Newey today, so, now, Cardille not participe the early stages for 2026 car. A huge disadvantage.


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Depending on how the car is performance-wise compared to the rest of the pack, it may be prudent to occasionally put Drugovich (maybe Vandoorne too) in the race seat if this season is a write-off, considering the long season and overall well-being of their starting drivers. He may not be re-signed for 2026 so it may be the appropriate decision to at least give them race opportunities this year and gauge their performance against Fernando and Lance.

The ban for 2026 wind tunnel time is lifted so teams can already start working on next year's contender. Unfortunately the wind tunnel is not ready yet, but Newey is. He can start by assessing the tools that are already on-line, and most importantly, the suspension, gearbox and power unit assembly architecture, which doesn't heavily rely on wind-tunnel numbers just yet. The recent update of the 2026 aero regulations also adds more scope for passive elements. Newey himself stated the suspension has to be able to cope with the load and with active aero there will be two modes in which the package needs to be efficient. Honda will need to identify the cooling targets and Newey will need to identify the packaging targets early on. Newey may be compelled to evaluate the 2025 car, but it may not be in scope.

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I'm a bit surprised by the lack of social media fanfare for AN arrival yesterday.

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Rikrikrik wrote:
04 Mar 2025, 01:20
The italian Court decided in favour of a italian team, my god, such a huge surprise for me.... :roll:

Cardille just begins in July 18.

Aston wanted Cardille starting with Newey today, so, now, Cardille not participe the early stages for 2026 car. A huge disadvantage.


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The Italian Court decided in favour of the employer (italian company) and not the employee (italian citizen). Don't play the national card, that's not ok.

AMR can still reach an (financial) agreement with Ferrari do get Cardile earlier.

lio007 wrote:
04 Mar 2025, 08:03
I'm a bit surprised by the lack of social media fanfare for AN arrival yesterday.
I am not, he seems to be the guy who wants to be appreciated and likes to work in peace, but not the guy who needs any (social media) attention.

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lio007 wrote:
04 Mar 2025, 08:03
I'm a bit surprised by the lack of social media fanfare for AN arrival yesterday.
He called in sick....🙂
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