2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[F1NAC]

Doesn't change that Mclaren started behind and ended convincingly ahead.

Ferrari are NOT on par with Mclaren in terms of development. No team on the grid currently is. Every single year for the past three years Mclaren have managed to bring game changing improvements to their car. The confidence in their technical department is likely at a high they've not had for decades. Ferrari has improved a lot, but is not yet on that same kind of level.

Which is also why Ferrari cannot afford to spend a third of the season figuring the car out. If the car doesn't show immediate and strong race winning potential early on, Mclaren will essentially have it in the bag. Maybe things would be different most seasons, but with 2026 looming, getting a strong start for this year is important for the title fight.

Ferrari had to change their entire concept for 2024 meanwhile McLaren figured it out in Austria in 2023. Of course they were ahead of us in development. Ferrari competing for race wins after the Monza upgrade given how much they were actually behind McLaren is nothing less than remarkable. I don't get why you seem to be so negative about the team.

Of course, we will wait and see until next week(for an unrepresentative track ironically) and go from there. I think the reaction from Wache(we were hiding the most during testing) is realistic given it is in line with what I have personally observed.

Ferrari made a massive concept change mid-2023 as well. 2024 was only a continuation of that.

I think one area where Ferrari were on the backfoot is simply having the huge problem of giving up on the innovative and very strong 2022 design direction. Mclaren were a bit more fluid in this regard because they hadn't so strongly committed to any different direction, and obviously not any design direction that got demolished by an FIA directive.

That said, the best design and engineering teams in F1 adapt, and that's an area that Mclaren have simply done better. It took them a little longer to overtake us, but they have done so confidently without any slipups.

I dont think it's likely Ferrari have secretly been hiding world beating pace, but it's obviously not technically impossible. If you want to hold onto that hope, cool.

They changed the concept in 2023, that is true but remember that they were hindered with the position of lower SIS which was too high so they were limited in exploiting that concept.

[Venturiation]

Why did they lift the car

[dialtone]

https://autoracer.it/en/mini-drs-and-tw ... en-prepare

Ferrari checked the flexing of their rear wing’s external component. This is where the new, more rigorous deflection tests imposed by the Federation will be concentrated.

Ferrari’s SF-25 was the only car with stickers dedicated to collecting this crucial additional data.

Curiously, the FIA will use the same methodology to observe rear wing flexing in Australia. In fact, at the beginning of this week, the FIA sent an updated technical directive.

Within it, (TD034) were new measures for the visual control of the rear wings starting from Australia. The positioning of dedicated high-resolution FIA cameras is being decided.

As well as new visual stickers to be placed on the rear profiles, similar to what already happened last year starting from the Belgian GP and up to Singapore for the front wings.

Sounds to me like Wache had a case of sour grapes.

[Henri]

https://autoracer.it/en/mini-drs-and-tw ... en-prepare

Ferrari checked the flexing of their rear wing’s external component. This is where the new, more rigorous deflection tests imposed by the Federation will be concentrated.

Ferrari’s SF-25 was the only car with stickers dedicated to collecting this crucial additional data.

Curiously, the FIA will use the same methodology to observe rear wing flexing in Australia. In fact, at the beginning of this week, the FIA sent an updated technical directive.

Within it, (TD034) were new measures for the visual control of the rear wings starting from Australia. The positioning of dedicated high-resolution FIA cameras is being decided.

As well as new visual stickers to be placed on the rear profiles, similar to what already happened last year starting from the Belgian GP and up to Singapore for the front wings.

Sounds to me like Wache had a case of sour grapes.

Since the bib and the braking system redbull lost pace

[ringo]

Why did they lift the car

More signs of aging. This is worrying!!
Not so light on his feet as a 25 year old eh.

I have been looking on his steering inputs from last year. Couldnt comment as i was banned for a long time, but he seems like he has less feel or confidence of the available grip.
This results in overcorrection or a choppy exit out or the turns. It was just had to know if it was from the W15 being unpredictable or Lewis losing sensitivity or balance.
This year should make for interesting watching in terms of how he manipulates the available grip in the corners. Russell and Charles are as sharp as a knife and float smoothly through. Lewis may be lacking that smootheness but lets see!!

[Fakepivot]

hummmm Charles been saying he is aiming for world champion a lot in promo and stuff and now very confidently writes it down here. something tells me Ferrari are really gunning for that title this year.

a day or two ago I read an article that said merc is unhappy with next year's Tyre and want to continue with the same Tyre as current one. but every team disagree on this expect merc coz merc engine next year supposed to be the best or something, if that's the case then Ferrari really might put all their effort for this year.

[f1316]

Oh no, Gary Anderson has Ferrari top on his one lap pace analysis! https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/whos ... -analysis/

We really are doomed!

[f1316]

https://preview.redd.it/uq6bopfsdhne1.j ... b34709d92b

hummmm Charles been saying he is aiming for world champion a lot in promo and stuff and now very confidently writes it down here. something tells me Ferrari are really gunning for that title this year.

a day or two ago I read an article that said merc is unhappy with next year's Tyre and want to continue with the same Tyre as current one. but every team disagree on this expect merc coz merc engine next year supposed to be the best or something, if that's the case then Ferrari really might put all their effort for this year.

What all this rhetoric says to me is - not that Ferrari know they’ve got a rocket ship or were sandbagging or anything wild like that - but that nothing went drastically wrong in testing. They ran their program successfully and didn’t see anything alarming that caused them to feel there were any issues or mistakes in the design of the car. It’s not a sign of overwhelming confidence in their own pace - nor a reflection of how well other teams may or may not have done - but just a sign that they’re on track with their own plan.

[Emag]

Charles also had put down a Ferrari 1-2 on Monza as a season expectation back in 2021. Even after a relatively bad Bahrain test in 2023, he still targeted the championship : https://www.formula1.com/en/video/charl ... 5541065092

He always expects the best from Ferrari and why shouldn’t he. It’s Ferrari. But don’t use Leclerc’s expectations as a gauge on the potential competitiveness of the car.

[Fakepivot]

Charles also had put down a Ferrari 1-2 on Monza as a season expectation back in 2021. Even after a relatively bad Bahrain test in 2023, he still targeted the championship : https://www.formula1.com/en/video/charl ... 5541065092

He always expects the best from Ferrari and why shouldn’t he. It’s Ferrari. But don’t use Leclerc’s expectations as a gauge on the potential competitiveness of the car.

nope after driving sf23 he put down, "i will be in Red" and sainz put down "i will win" and you now what both there prediction came true sinz took a win and charles was just in red not more.

[ringo]

https://preview.redd.it/uq6bopfsdhne1.j ... b34709d92b

hummmm Charles been saying he is aiming for world champion a lot in promo and stuff and now very confidently writes it down here. something tells me Ferrari are really gunning for that title this year.

a day or two ago I read an article that said merc is unhappy with next year's Tyre and want to continue with the same Tyre as current one. but every team disagree on this expect merc coz merc engine next year supposed to be the best or something, if that's the case then Ferrari really might put all their effort for this year.

He's in for a rude awakening if Lewis has other plans. It's going to be a long season!

I am wary of Merc and Russell. I really feel the car they had in Silverstone, Vegas and Spa will be the car that will show up in more of the races this season. Lando is also a qualy genius and strong stint runner. Charles need to consider being less forthright.

[deadhead]

Charles also had put down a Ferrari 1-2 on Monza as a season expectation back in 2021. Even after a relatively bad Bahrain test in 2023, he still targeted the championship : https://www.formula1.com/en/video/charl ... 5541065092

He always expects the best from Ferrari and why shouldn’t he. It’s Ferrari. But don’t use Leclerc’s expectations as a gauge on the potential competitiveness of the car.

LEC has the opportunity to set some kind of a bizarre record by potentially being at Ferrari for a decade and never driving a championship winning car.

It’s really incredible if you think about it but not that far fetched considering Ferrari’s track record.

[ScuderiaLeo]

He's in for a rude awakening if Lewis has other plans. It's going to be a long season!

I am wary of Merc and Russell. I really feel the car they had in Silverstone, Vegas and Spa will be the car that will show up in more of the races this season. Lando is also a qualy genius and strong stint runner. Charles need to consider being less forthright.

Isn't it completely normal for a top driver to state they have the confidence and intend to win the WDC? Why would this be a bad thing?

And what does this have to do with Hamilton? Both Hamilton and Leclerc have stated they know the other is going for the WDC too. Neither of them believe the other is going to be a second driver.

BTW, do we know when these pics were taken? Before or after Bahrain?

[Seanspeed]

He's in for a rude awakening if Lewis has other plans. It's going to be a long season!

I am wary of Merc and Russell. I really feel the car they had in Silverstone, Vegas and Spa will be the car that will show up in more of the races this season. Lando is also a qualy genius and strong stint runner. Charles need to consider being less forthright.

His response was about as bog standard as it gets for somebody in his position and with how Ferrari finished last year.

How you're reading so much into it all is absolutely bananas.

[Emag]

BTW, do we know when these pics were taken? Before or after Bahrain?

If they were all shot at the same time as with the other drivers, then based on how bald Doohan is on those photos I would say before testing