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Sadly Alonso's optimism hasnt been well founded in the recent years. But I think hes just thinking possibilities keeping likes of McLaren in mind, not giving insight on development. The fact that they're already talking upgrades suggests their projected standings are right. The good news is its not the worst season to be a throw away.KimiRai wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025, 09:17Alonso:
It seems there is some hope on development.If you get an upgrade package right, it changes your season. We will have upgrades on the car and if one of those revives the car, suddenly you can fight for much better things. We shouldn't take the grid order during the first few races for granted.
The last thing I think nobody knows. Until about a week from now.
I was referring to the fact that they only talk about being competitive after the updates. Which means they know the car as it is now won't be.PinkFloydPulse wrote: ↑11 Mar 2025, 15:36The last part makes no sense... Every team is already hard at work to bring updates to the car... Some plan it for the first race, some for later...
The ground effect era ends in the next year and they still not understading how need to work on that hahaha.-wkst- wrote: ↑13 Mar 2025, 13:04AMuS visited the media-round of AMR guys:
Cowell said that "the plan is that Newey concentrates on the 2026 car". Also said that "some of the aerodynmics and mechanic work good, some need to be better. Some weak points are solved, some need more work".
From the words of ALO (he looks forward to meet Newey when he is back in Europe and what he thinks of the current situation) it is clear that Newey isn't in Australia and won't be in China or Japan.
ALO once again said that the car is more stable, but not all problems are solved, didn't comment regarding a pecking order. Furthermore said that Bahrain was difficult, because of the conditions, all 3 days felt different in the car.
Due to the characteristics of the AMR24 (car got more unstable with each upgrade) the team used the Bahrain test for set-up work, to test a lot of different and extreme stuff, as there is no time on a normal race weekend, to find answers for that characteristics (unstable AMR24) and what to do against it for the new car. They believe they understand the car much better now (how often we heard this...). The "toolbox" to fix things through adjustments is better now.
More downforce makes a more unstable car in the groundeffect era, says ALO, and Krack added "and then it is good to know to understand why bouncing is the result and what to do to supress it".
This tracks coz I thought I saw significant bouncing on the first day of testing when the car looked the most competitive. I also think suspension seems like a key area where they might be going wrong as instability with more downforce comes when the platform is not stable going over curbs, etc leading to sudden loss of downforce.-wkst- wrote: ↑13 Mar 2025, 13:04AMuS visited the media-round of AMR guys:
Cowell said that "the plan is that Newey concentrates on the 2026 car". Also said that "some of the aerodynmics and mechanic work good, some need to be better. Some weak points are solved, some need more work".
From the words of ALO (he looks forward to meet Newey when he is back in Europe and what he thinks of the current situation) it is clear that Newey isn't in Australia and won't be in China or Japan.
ALO once again said that the car is more stable, but not all problems are solved, didn't comment regarding a pecking order. Furthermore said that Bahrain was difficult, because of the conditions, all 3 days felt different in the car.
Due to the characteristics of the AMR24 (car got more unstable with each upgrade) the team used the Bahrain test for set-up work, to test a lot of different and extreme stuff, as there is no time on a normal race weekend, to find answers for that characteristics (unstable AMR24) and what to do against it for the new car. They believe they understand the car much better now (how often we heard this...). The "toolbox" to fix things through adjustments is better now.
More downforce makes a more unstable car in the groundeffect era, says ALO, and Krack added "and then it is good to know to understand why bouncing is the result and what to do to supress it".
Aston Martin reveal impact of ‘Adrian Newey effect’ in only his first week
“He’s an engineer. He’s walked in, he’s picking up the 2026 regulations, understanding those regulations, getting into the detail of the work that we’ve been doing, understanding that, contributing to ideas.
“I guess drawing boards don’t need firing up, do they? They don’t need plugging in – they just work, and it’s a joy to work with Adrian.
“His experiences is vast. His hunger is huge, and it’s just wonderful conversations about making fast race cars and the compromises that you have to make, the trade-offs that you need to make, and building up good working relationships with the engineers that have been pushing the concept to date – and there are already a few areas I’m smiling to myself.
“I won’t give you the detail because I don’t want our opponents to know, but you know, there’s a couple of areas where already he’s saying, ‘Can we just push that in this direction? Can we just do that?’ And engineers, mechanical engineers, composite engineers, are looking at it and going, ‘Yeah, okay, we’ll have a go.’
“And I think that’s the Adrian effect. He picks up on the areas where you should push them and everybody’s just embracing it.”
A rising tide raises all ships and even though most of Newey’s attention is on 2026 he’ll no doubt give direction and guidance to the engineers so 2025 car upgrades actually perform. Im optimistic for the upgradesCowell also confirmed outright that thus far, Newey had only been focusing on the 2026 rules and had not yet looked at the 2025 AMR25 machine.