2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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bluechris wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 18:44
Isn't better for the race if there is rain with higher downforce?
My take :
On this track, no. There aren't many medium speed corners but lots of low speed corners which are between 80-140 kph, and for these, when they become 50-100 kph corners in the wet, there isn't much use for huge wings. If any team goes for 'more downforce' setting than what they would like for a dry setup, it will be a poor tradeoff and they will drop like a stone in sector2 (at whatever speeds is possible there in the wet), where the radius of curves is very very high, and doesn't need much wing anyway. Albert Park is all about traction and top speed.
If the circuit in Q is SaoPaolo or Zandvoort or Suzuka, there is benefit from bigger wings as the high speed stuff there has shorter radius corners.

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venkyhere wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 18:59
bluechris wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 18:44
Isn't better for the race if there is rain with higher downforce?
My take :
On this track, no. There aren't many medium speed corners but lots of low speed corners which are between 80-140 kph, and for these, when they become 50-100 kph corners in the wet, there isn't much use for huge wings. If any team goes for 'more downforce' setting than what they would like for a dry setup, it will be a poor tradeoff and they will drop like a stone in sector2 (at whatever speeds is possible there in the wet), where the radius of curves is very very high, and doesn't need much wing anyway. Albert Park is all about traction and top speed.
If the circuit in Q is SaoPaolo or Zandvoort or Suzuka, there is benefit from bigger wings as the high speed stuff there has shorter radius corners.
Df is a variable in the rubber heat & longevity equation too.
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dialtone wrote:
14 Mar 2025, 17:51
Xyz22 wrote:McL has a completely different aero configuration than Ferrari. It's absolutely clear how quicker McL is in the straights and Ferrari in the high speed corners.
That’s debatable. The difference seen in fp1 has nothing to do with aero for the high speed, aero really kicks in past 240kph and grows towards 300kph, Ferrari was just not pushing the car.

Fp2 both were on similar aero setups, NOR took it easy in some braking points, and LEC took it easy in others, but overall much closer, although Ferrari still saving something engine side, start of lap and end of lap speed on the same straight show LEC could have pushed more there for example.

LEC’s lap also had a bit of traffic in S3 where it met DOO in t10, really not an ideal place to have to pass 2 cars.

The car is looking very very good. Not sure what the rain will bring but this is f1-75 level of good, might not win anyway but this is a good start for now.
Check the race sim laptimes. Either McL had way more fuel or they are creating laptime in a very different way.

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Norris is saying the mcl39 is nervous on low fuel. So after mclaren sort that out we may see more of their actual pace.
Ferrari always had good low speed traction hence their Monaco win. Maybe PU charactrristics. McLaren seem to have some of the traits from last year. They werent that great in low speed. Their strength was high downforce medium and high speed corners.

As for Hamilton, I think he is hiding his hand until Q3. He wont over extend until then. The gamble with this is lack of pushing laps to build a rhythm. He's probably cognizant of not wanting to damage the car by pushing something he isn't used to or doesnt know well enough
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ringo wrote:
15 Mar 2025, 01:46
As for Hamilton, I think he is hiding his hand until Q3. He wont over extend until then. The gamble with this is lack of pushing laps to build a rhythm. He's probably cognizant of not wanting to damage the car by pushing something he isn't used to or doesnt know well enough
I dont think so, i think Lewis just needs time to get used to a new team and new car and has to unlearn how he had to drive for the last three years, Lewis himself said he's still learning and thinks its too early for him to even contend for pole this weekend. I guess we'll see in fp3 and quali

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Pack it up guys. Forth fastest

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jambuka wrote:
15 Mar 2025, 04:16
Pack it up guys. Forth fastest
Yeah..I mean even Williams found over a second in one winter break. Ferrari really dropped the ball. And both drivers were on the absolute edge. I mean they were really ringing the cars neck. It was like actual qualifying for them... :D

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The good news is there is always a Next Year for Ferrari.

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While I don't think we're 4th fastest, the car didn't look as stable today. Both drivers made some small mistakes in S1.



I'm confident they'll clean it up before qualifying though :)

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Well Lewis finally has the front end bite he's been wanting for so long, hope he enjoys it. But he doesn't have time to figure it out. Not this year. Not if he wants to contend for the title. Teams are too close. Gotta score big straight out of the gate, race 1, or hello #2 seat and an exclusive interview with Rubens.

Charles looked fine. I think ultimately, he digs the car. Just needs some sharpening here and there. It certainly isn't bouncing and that is great to see. Chuck will be able to wring the car's neck straight out of the gate. Looking forward to watching him in quali. He's an absolute quali beast. Can't wait for Q3. This is it.
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We are 4th in one lap pace

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Hmm...would the change to pull rod front suspension led to ferrari's overheating of the rears over one lap? Could be a poor quali car but maybe a good race car...crossing fingers...it is the first race after all...

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Behind Williams and RB 🤣. When is Fred going to say we are going to shift focus to next year ?

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The traffic management this session was terrible. So many moments where Leclerc was put out at a bad time or they didn't report the situation correctly.

Bozzi is still new and this is the first real session of the year so I'm not saying it's a catastrophe, but it's not a nice feeling either.

Neither driver looked comfortable at all. Leclerc's ease from yesterday evaporated. It's rare for Ferrari to make such a big step back between Friday and Saturday. Really disappointing.

Nothing to say about the car. I can only hope they set up for a wet race and it pours tomorrow.

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wow that was bad lol, what is it with this sf24 and now this car that they are good on Friday and bad on Saturday?? sigh.. hoping for a better race and maximizing the points.