2025 McLaren F1 Team

[Szabi1112]

Do we know when can we expect updates?

[CjC]

Do we know when can we expect updates?

Worried about the lack of upgrades, the gap isn’t big

There’s a diffuser update in Saudi:

https://www.fia.com/system/files/decisi ... ssions.pdf

I personally think they have been ticking along with the upgrades which have to be disclosed, there have been four performance upgrades so far this season of I recall correctly.

[mwillems]

It's interesting to see the amount of FIA lobbying this year. Did it happen in 2023?

It didnt happen either in 2022 or 2023 when Red Bull carried all the advantages from overspending in 2021, or having an illegal asymmetrical braking and a front bib that could change car height during parc ferme. These championships have an big questionmark.

There was a ton of lobbying around the budget breach, and I think this started a longstanding animosity between the two teams.

[mwillems]

Before we debate about the rear wings too much. I thought we clarified that the stricter rule over rear wing flexing is already in place?
https://www.planetf1.com/news/red-bull- ... ule-change

It is, so the response for AR3-GP was confusing, since the media conversations between RB and Mclaren are around why one things the other is wrong about whether the FIA should do more on the rear wings.

[mwillems]

Do we know when can we expect updates?

The bigger package will come around Spain

[BMMR61]

It's interesting to see the amount of FIA lobbying this year. Did it happen in 2023?

It didnt happen either in 2022 or 2023 when Red Bull carried all the advantages from overspending in 2021, or having an illegal asymmetrical braking and a front bib that could change car height during parc ferme. These championships have an big questionmark.

Allegedly.

[FittingMechanics]

It's interesting to see the amount of FIA lobbying this year. Did it happen in 2023?

It didnt happen either in 2022 or 2023 when Red Bull carried all the advantages from overspending in 2021, or having an illegal asymmetrical braking and a front bib that could change car height during parc ferme. These championships have an big questionmark.

Allegedly.

Bib could be used to do that. Nothing allegedly about that. This is why it was sealed after FIA found out about it. But there is no (public) proof they used it to change the ride height in parc ferme.

[Darth-Piekus]

Bib could be used to do that. Nothing allegedly about that. This is why it was sealed after FIA found out about it. But there is no (public) proof they used it to change the ride height in parc ferme.

Unfortunately no there is no proof but it is still an illegal part which should not be there and that is why it was removed immediately the moment they found it just like the asymmetrical braking which was another form of the third pedal from 1998 which was already illegal by then. It makes me wonder how many of these championships were won on merit.

[Cs98]

Bib could be used to do that. Nothing allegedly about that. This is why it was sealed after FIA found out about it. But there is no (public) proof they used it to change the ride height in parc ferme.

Unfortunately no there is no proof but it is still an illegal part which should not be there and that is why it was removed immediately the moment they found it just like the asymmetrical braking which was another form of the third pedal from 1998 which was already illegal by then. It makes me wonder how many of these championships were won on merit.

Wrong on all counts. This forum is derailing with off topic misinformation.

[Ben1980]

Early days, but anyone shocked Russell looks fast straight away?

[CjC]

Early days, but anyone shocked Russell looks fast straight away?

No, just disappointed. Saying that I have him down for pole and the win in my fantasy predictions

[Darth-Piekus]

Unfortunately no there is no proof but it is still an illegal part which should not be there and that is why it was removed immediately the moment they found it just like the asymmetrical braking which was another form of the third pedal from 1998 which was already illegal by then. It makes me wonder how many of these championships were won on merit.

Wrong on all counts. This forum is derailing with off topic misinformation.
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Im curious to hear your sources and opinion on the matter then. Is this not what happened?

[bauc]

We are looking good after FP2, hope we can lock the front row tomorrow.

[Cs98]

Im curious to hear your sources and opinion on the matter then. Is this not what happened?

The part was never removed because it was perfectly legal. And I don't see the relevance of spreading made up conspiracies about another team in the 2025 McLaren thread, it's off topic.

[SoulPancake13]

Was Lando running the same long run plan as Oscar? Their times are very different