2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Imola upgrades cant come soon enough

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Middle sector slower than Ocon

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Xyz22 wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:04
Middle sector slower than Ocon
Haas didn't take the new front suspension for a reason I guess.

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According to Duchessa, the anti-understeer setup Ferrari used performed better in the simulator than on track. The level of understeer on track was surprising to them.

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ringo wrote:
03 May 2025, 23:58
What he says is reasonable, but it still falls on the team to understand that they need to do something different to get the tyres in the right window. And even if in the correct window at the start of the lap..it needs to stay there for the rest of it. Fred is likely diverting attention to survive a few more weekends before upgrades.

What do you think happens when the tires are in the right window? P5 instead of P8?

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I think this is the most dejected we've seen both drivers so far.


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I will continue to say it: this performance again suggests they're running the car higher than other teams (and probably losing dozens of points of downforce as a result).

Lack of pace on a wet track? Lack of pace on a green track? Poor traction and pace through low/medium-speed corners? They're running the car higher than they should be.

If that is indeed the case, how they managed to get something so fundamentally wrong from a chassis/suspension/weight distribution perspective in the final year of a regulation set, is hard to fathom.

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catent wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:43
I will continue to say it: this performance again suggests they're running the car higher than other teams (and probably losing dozens of points of downforce as a result).

Lack of pace on a wet track? Lack of pace on a green track? Poor traction and pace through low/medium-speed corners? They're running the car higher than they should be.

If that is indeed the case, how they managed to get something so fundamentally wrong from a chassis/suspension/weight distribution perspective in the final year of a regulation set, is hard to fathom.
What's the fix?
They brought a modified floor and they still didn't address this.

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catent wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:43
I will continue to say it: this performance again suggests they're running the car higher than other teams (and probably losing dozens of points of downforce as a result).

Lack of pace on a wet track? Lack of pace on a green track? Poor traction and pace through low/medium-speed corners? They're running the car higher than they should be.

If that is indeed the case, how they managed to get something so fundamentally wrong from a chassis/suspension/weight distribution perspective in the final year of a regulation set, is hard to fathom.
Autoracer have all but confirmed they are running the car a lot higher than they would like, even Lewis said it, 3mm higher than it should be,which is a lot and Autoracer said that their issue with the rear is aero related, which is better than it being a mechanical issue. i believe in one of Autoracer's streams they said the upgrades at imola aim to correct the weak rear end but im struggling to find it rn

https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-risolve ... re-leclerc
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Sevach wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:48
catent wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:43
I will continue to say it: this performance again suggests they're running the car higher than other teams (and probably losing dozens of points of downforce as a result).

Lack of pace on a wet track? Lack of pace on a green track? Poor traction and pace through low/medium-speed corners? They're running the car higher than they should be.

If that is indeed the case, how they managed to get something so fundamentally wrong from a chassis/suspension/weight distribution perspective in the final year of a regulation set, is hard to fathom.
What's the fix?
They brought a modified floor and they still didn't address this.
the floor upgrade they brought was never meant to solve their rear end issue, it was already in development before they found the issue with the rear. i believe their next set of upgrades at meant to address it (im looking for the autoracer stream)

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Im so not looking forward to Monaco. A race they won last year. But with this car i dont think even leclerc will make top 10.

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Luscion wrote:
04 May 2025, 00:53
Autoracer have all but confirmed they are running the car a lot higher than they would like, even Lewis said it, 3mm higher than it should be,which is a lot and Autoracer said that their issue with the rear is aero related, which is better than it being a mechanical issue. i believe in one of Autoracer's streams they said the upgrades at imola aim to correct the weak rear end but im struggling to find it rn

https://autoracer.it/it/ferrari-risolve ... re-leclerc
Autoracer do not think the package will come in Imola. They're expecting Spain or later.

Maybe that will change because of this weekend's performance, Ferrari might accelerate the upgrades or something.

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Hammerfist wrote:
04 May 2025, 01:03
Im so not looking forward to Monaco. A race they won last year. But with this car i dont think even leclerc will make top 10.
That would be pretty shocking. I can't remember the last time Ferrari was that uncompetitive at Monaco. Maybe 2014?

For whatever reason, Ferrari tends to perform there regardless of how they do on "normal" circuits.

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The issue is clear - the technical team has made a dud of a car. The drivers aren't primarily the point of concern as LEC will get mostly everything out of the car.

Just unbelievable really what I am seeing after the SF-24.
Call a spade, a spade.