2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[ScuderiaLeo]

I will continue to say it: this performance again suggests they're running the car higher than other teams (and probably losing dozens of points of downforce as a result).

Lack of pace on a wet track? Lack of pace on a green track? Poor traction and pace through low/medium-speed corners? They're running the car higher than they should be.

If that is indeed the case, how they managed to get something so fundamentally wrong from a chassis/suspension/weight distribution perspective in the final year of a regulation set, is hard to fathom.

I found it funny Vasseur said rain would help them tomorrow considering their absolutely dreadful pace on the inters during the sprint.

[Xyz22]

I will continue to say it: this performance again suggests they're running the car higher than other teams (and probably losing dozens of points of downforce as a result).

Lack of pace on a wet track? Lack of pace on a green track? Poor traction and pace through low/medium-speed corners? They're running the car higher than they should be.

If that is indeed the case, how they managed to get something so fundamentally wrong from a chassis/suspension/weight distribution perspective in the final year of a regulation set, is hard to fathom.

I found it funny Vasseur said rain would help them tomorrow considering their absolutely dreadful pace on the inters during the sprint.

That was a mistake by the translators. Vasseur said they are expecting a big shower tomorrow, not that they are hoping for rain.

In any event, his other statements don't make any sense.

[ringo]

What he says is reasonable, but it still falls on the team to understand that they need to do something different to get the tyres in the right window. And even if in the correct window at the start of the lap..it needs to stay there for the rest of it. Fred is likely diverting attention to survive a few more weekends before upgrades.

What do you think happens when the tires are in the right window? P5 instead of P8?

Well now ... maybe 2.5 tenths behind pole. And that may well be P5.

The 3mm higher ride height is interesting. And if it's an aero problem, then this sounds like a fundamental design issue.
The rear is coming lower than expected. May center of pressure is to rearward, or suspension is not in tune with the aero at the rear.
The other cars, especially the McLaren squats the rear of the car to the ground, almost having the rake sloped down to the rear. They are doing this for some reason, possibly at the end of the straights for top speed gain, or for traction coming out of the corners. It seems the Ferrari cannot control this suspension movement very well.

[nitrotech]

Ferrari continues to prove itself to be a WDC's graveyard. Schumacher era remains an absolute exception. They just can't move forward one step without going backwards two.

[Fakepivot]

din't watch quly, went to bed expecting bad result, but man din't expect that bad.. hope they have better race.. sigh!

[evered7]

I only hope it is the result of not running the car at desired height than anything else and that they have upgrades planned to run it at the correct height will yield some pace that they see in simulator.

Leclerc should see light and start talking in the paddock. He's wasting his time in an organisation which is setup to fail.

[Hammerfist]

Ferrari continues to prove itself to be a WDC's graveyard. Schumacher era remains an absolute exception. They just can't move forward one step without going backwards two.

Very true. Alonso, then Vettel and now Hamilton. I now know I was right to be upset when this move was announced.
Hamilton should have seeked out retirement with Merc. Take 1 year contracts if you have to. Their car is solid this year and next year everyone thinks they will have the top PU (though I'm not quite convinced of that)

[Chuckjr]

Where is Vanja and defenders of Vasseur and shitty technical department

No need to attack a fellow member.

No one is attacking just asking.
We were being called out here and run away from forums in march due to being objective and realistic and critical too.

True that Bole. Many are not willing to face reality.

This team lost the plot a long time ago when they kicked Schumacher out. They cant be taken seriously as a racing team as long as marketing and image are their ethos. They paid 400 mil for a has-been. My god. Please. Where is the priority in such a stupid decision? Clearly Fred is a incompetent leader, it’s all over his head, and he does not have the basic capacity to lead such a former illustrious team back to glory. It’s not about signing big stars and selling an image, Fred. It’s about winning. It’s about racing. And these are not congruent with image marketing and big name images. I called all of this out over a year ago when they signed Lewis and not Newey. Garbage decisions. They are not interested in seriously contesting, they are interested in marketing and making money. They will NEVER win championships with such pathetic ideals. The end.

[Autobahn303]

No need to attack a fellow member.

No one is attacking just asking.
We were being called out here and run away from forums in march due to being objective and realistic and critical too.

True that Bole. Many are not willing to face reality.

This team lost the plot a long time ago when they kicked Schumacher out. They cant be taken seriously as a racing team as long as marketing and image are their ethos. They paid 400 mil for a has-been. My god. Please. Where is the priority in such a stupid decision? Clearly Fred is a incompetent leader, it’s all over his head, and he does not have the basic capacity to lead such a former illustrious team back to glory. It’s not about signing big stars and selling an image, Fred. It’s about winning. It’s about racing. And these are not congruent with image marketing and big name images. I called all of this out over a year ago when they signed Lewis and not Newey. Garbage decisions. They are not interested in seriously contesting, they are interested in marketing and making money. They will NEVER win championships with such pathetic ideals. The end.

Sure. But winning the WCC would be the best form of marketing.

[ringo]

Chuck keeps repeating the same nightmare he is having each night, only to wake up and see that it is reality.
Newey will not have done anything special in Ferrari. Watch and see what he does at Aston next year. I wont be surprised if Aston fails.
Get over it and move on Chuck. Ferrari already made back that 400 million, and they're going to make even more money with Hamilton as the season progresses. There will also be a win.
At it is now, Hamilton is driving better. Just about 1.5 tenth off Charles. Steadily improving. By year end they will be about even and have more silverware. 2026 is the championship year, not this one.

[F1subman25]

Clearly something is fundamentally wrong is the basics of this car design. What’s more worrying is after pretty much 3 months it appears they still don’t know what it is, or at least publicly it hasn’t slipped they know what it is.

If the Imola/Barcelona rumoured update doesn’t put them nearer to the front runners they have to abandon further upgrades unless they have a direct 2026 part of play.

When Ferrari has more white on the car they have a bad season!

[Emag]

Traction out of 2 was really really bad in Jeddah too, but for some reason it neutralized in the race. Here, they have a different kind of problem, because Charles is losing a lot of time in the braking for T1 and then a bit more on the exit as well. Same story happens in T8. Bad on the entry with some losses out of the exit piled on as well. 4 tenths lost in 2 corners.

At least in Jeddah, the rest of the lap was decent, it was just that T2 limitation that caused the biggest gap, but here they're losing quite a bit in the slow overpass section in S2 as well. Makes me less optimistic the race pace will be as relatively impressive as it was in Jeddah.

[Mosin123]

Chuck keeps repeating the same nightmare he is having each night, only to wake up and see that it is reality.
Newey will not have done anything special in Ferrari. Watch and see what he does at Aston next year. I wont be surprised if Aston fails.
Get over it and move on Chuck. Ferrari already made back that 400 million, and they're going to make even more money with Hamilton as the season progresses. There will also be a win.
At it is now, Hamilton is driving better. Just about 1.5 tenth off Charles. Steadily improving. By year end they will be about even and have more silverware. 2026 is the championship year, not this one.

Weak and baseless nonsense. He is a has been. The end. I predicted this entire thing a year ago and I was dam right. And stop attacking posters Ringo. You of all people should know that. Good grief.

weak and baseless nonsense....... LH is no where near a has been......

Since when is 0.058 off your team mate ( the best qualifier on the grid too ) a has been........ really..... what nonsense..... He was stood on the podium yesterday........

Some thing tells me your over exaggerating

[DGP123]

The day you don’t need to bash Hamilton. He actually delivered a decent return. He’s still struggling, but given time, he will close that gap to Leclerc.

Given the car is a dud, and Ferrari have thrown this season away, he’s actually been afforded this year to learn, and prep for, 26’. Critical eyes should be firmly directed towards the team, not the drivers.

[KimiRai]

Critical eyes should be firmly directed towards the team, not the drivers.

Team for focusing on drivers and not on someone like Newey when he was available. He could have been wearing red right now instead of wasting his time on a saudi oil sponsored fiasco.