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TLof wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:43
KimiRai wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:40
Alonso says they probably aren't fifth fastest and could lose positions tomorrow.
I mean they most likely are. Williams and Ferrari are clearly faster. If they can't pass on track they will do it through the strategy

It would be nice for a difference to have some luck this time for Alonso with how the race unfolds
I mean after FP2 it was looking like Q2 was the max. Maybe for a change the car performs better than expected
Halo not as bad as we thought

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YEEEEEEAH

real upgrades

lets hope that we have a good pace tomorrow, and maybe with some luck and a crash i front we could get a happy podium babe

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Let's make Newey have lunch with the AMR25 aero team more often. :D

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RedNEO wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:01
SSJ4 wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:53
max_speed wrote:
17 May 2025, 17:49
What a positive surprise? Hope this becomes trend not a one off. Anyone has alonso's lap link. They did not show it


Still a bit twitchy. But way better than before. Could apply the throttle earlier and it stuck
I know with more time to dial it in I think they can gain even more. For Alonso to only have one session with it while lance had 3 sessions Alonso pulled it out the bag. Let’s get some points for him tomorrow at last hopefully
F#4k points, lets get a podium :lol:

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FNTC wrote:
17 May 2025, 19:39
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrKiftxWQAA-03w?format=jpg

Let's make Newey have lunch with the AMR25 aero team more often. :D
Everybody forget, that many teams upgrades was for reduce the flexibility of the wings and other parts,because of from Spain new TD test rules. This could help some teams, just loke Aston.

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Besides the updates working so far, kudos to the team for understanding that the mediums were faster and being brave enough to go for it. They nailed it.
Tomorrow might be tough tyre-wise but let's enjoy the moment.

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-wkst- wrote:
17 May 2025, 19:11
The thing that STR was probably the faster guy in Q3, faster on new softs, tyre disadvantage compared to ALO on the mediums (ALO’s tyre just had 1 outlap, STR’s set outlap-Flyer-inlap) but less than 2 tenths slower, clearly indicates that the updates work I guess…

On the other side the tyre picture is tricky. HAD and GAS also did 15.7 on new softs like STR in Q3, the Williams a bit quicker.
of course stroll was "the faster guy" if you ignore every lap from every practice except the one that DIDNT count haha. still waiting i see.

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zoroastar wrote:
17 May 2025, 20:11
-wkst- wrote:
17 May 2025, 19:11
The thing that STR was probably the faster guy in Q3, faster on new softs, tyre disadvantage compared to ALO on the mediums (ALO’s tyre just had 1 outlap, STR’s set outlap-Flyer-inlap) but less than 2 tenths slower, clearly indicates that the updates work I guess…

On the other side the tyre picture is tricky. HAD and GAS also did 15.7 on new softs like STR in Q3, the Williams a bit quicker.
of course stroll was "the faster guy" if you ignore every lap from every practice except the one that DIDNT count haha. still waiting i see.
STR destroyed his chances for a better result in Q1, being too slow and therefore forced to use the first medium set.

But emotions aside, as this is still the f1technical forum, STR was faster in Q3 on equal tyres, first run, and less than 2 tenths slower with a clear tyre disadvantage in the 2nd run. I think that’s very positive for the team. Every time STR is closely matched, the car has potential. Q2 was close between them as well, half a tenth gap.

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-wkst- wrote:
17 May 2025, 20:31
zoroastar wrote:
17 May 2025, 20:11
-wkst- wrote:
17 May 2025, 19:11
The thing that STR was probably the faster guy in Q3, faster on new softs, tyre disadvantage compared to ALO on the mediums (ALO’s tyre just had 1 outlap, STR’s set outlap-Flyer-inlap) but less than 2 tenths slower, clearly indicates that the updates work I guess…

On the other side the tyre picture is tricky. HAD and GAS also did 15.7 on new softs like STR in Q3, the Williams a bit quicker.
of course stroll was "the faster guy" if you ignore every lap from every practice except the one that DIDNT count haha. still waiting i see.
STR destroyed his chances for a better result in Q1, being too slow and therefore forced to use the first medium set.

But emotions aside, as this is still the f1technical forum, STR was faster in Q3 on equal tyres, first run, and less than 2 tenths slower with a clear tyre disadvantage in the 2nd run. I think that’s very positive for the team. Every time STR is closely matched, the car has potential. Q2 was close between them as well, half a tenth gap.
yeah im just messin haha. im actually pretty optimistic for race pace tomorrow. their free practices were hard to get any answers about that. hopefully they can pull their strategies together along with this upgrade and keep their positions in the race.

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Not a bad lap considering Alonso only had one practice session to dial in the setup while Stroll had three.

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
17 May 2025, 20:04
FNTC wrote:
17 May 2025, 19:39
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GrKiftxWQAA-03w?format=jpg

Let's make Newey have lunch with the AMR25 aero team more often. :D
Everybody forget, that many teams upgrades was for reduce the flexibility of the wings and other parts,because of from Spain new TD test rules. This could help some teams, just loke Aston.
It's been tough trying to be quiet when OnEcRiTiCaL recognized I had insider info ;) .

It's been tough being positive.

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KimiRai wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:40
Alonso says they probably aren't fifth fastest and could lose positions tomorrow.
Any kind of top 10 finish on merit would be a huge improvement on their form.

Newey may be focused on 2026, but there's no way he wasn't at least being consulted on their upgrade direction. It's just impossible to believe that Aston having their first successful upgrade package in basically years after Newey joins is just a pure coincidence.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... _of_imola/
Translated from German from AmuS:
"Medium more stable and less temperature sensitive. That was the plan from the start. Aston Martin wasn't confident about Pirelli's new superglue, the C6. "We already noticed during the tests last year in Mexico and Abu Dhabi that things could get critical with the C6 at the end of the lap on certain tracks," reveals chief engineer Mike Krack. But they were a bit hesitant. "The new soft tire lasted surprisingly long on Friday."

Nevertheless, Aston Martin went ahead with its plan. And it was proven right. The C6 was already degrading in the second sector with the track temperature reaching 40 degrees Celsius. The C5 compound, on the other hand, remained stable throughout the entire lap. The medium tire overheats less quickly and also offers more lateral stability because the tread moves less.

Aston Martin may no longer have any fresh medium tires in its contingent, but the team almost always warms up its tires before races anyway. Alonso believes he's well prepared for the race. "We're not as fast as we look. But even if we lose two more positions, it wouldn't be a big deal. We just need to manage to make it through the race with one stop. Then the others have to overtake us on the track, and that's difficult.""

And:
"Only when Aston Martin showed such a big performance did Mercedes decide to do the same. For the very last attempt, George Russell switched from soft to medium.

Red Bull team principal Christian Horner admits: "When we saw that, we were sure George would be on pole position." And that almost happened. Russell was only 0.137 seconds behind Piastri's pole lap. The Englishman lost his time entirely in the first four corners. "After that, George was exactly as fast as Piastri," Mercedes calculated. Russell may have lost pole position on the warm-up lap. He had to slow down in heavy traffic, which is never good for tire preparation."

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Seanspeed wrote:
17 May 2025, 22:57
KimiRai wrote:
17 May 2025, 18:40
Alonso says they probably aren't fifth fastest and could lose positions tomorrow.
Any kind of top 10 finish on merit would be a huge improvement on their form.

Newey may be focused on 2026, but there's no way he wasn't at least being consulted on their upgrade direction. It's just impossible to believe that Aston having their first successful upgrade package in basically years after Newey joins is just a pure coincidence.
If we're being honest, it most likely would have been another Q2 exit for Aston Martin without the medium tyre strategy.

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Yeah, this seems to have been a rare strategy win by Aston. The other teams might have gone faster too on the mediums. But difficult to know. But the updates that were tested in the new wind tunnel, and with some lunchtime tips from Newey, defintely didn't hurt. And Alonso had very limited testing with the new package, so it's encouraging for once in a long time.
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