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I just hope Barcelona gives us a confirmation that the team has found out how to improve the car. If those upgrades work, then We can say there's a chance to keep up and compete.

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Sedaxel wrote:
18 May 2025, 22:29
I just hope Barcelona gives us a confirmation that the team has found out how to improve the car. If those upgrades work, then We can say there's a chance to keep up and compete.
this...

If they do not show improvement after the Barcelona update then there is no help and the problem is terminal inside of that team!
Team Fernando!

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Sedaxel wrote:
18 May 2025, 22:29
I just hope Barcelona gives us a confirmation that the team has found out how to improve the car. If those upgrades work, then We can say there's a chance to keep up and compete.
They found there way in the NWT.

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Sedaxel wrote:
18 May 2025, 22:29
I just hope Barcelona gives us a confirmation that the team has found out how to improve the car. If those upgrades work, then We can say there's a chance to keep up and compete.
At least it seems they've come back to life to improve a situation that was starting to feel extravagant.

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I am just curious if they bring a 2nd new package around July or August, which is fully developed with their new tools. That’s the real challenge in my opinion. Silverstone or Budapest…

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The data show that P5 in qualifying was the highest outcome indeed, as Aston Martin still has problems with low speed corners (-13Kh/h vs McL and -10Km/H vs Russel in P4):

Minimum corner speed ALO: 91Km/h vs PIA 104Km/h vs RUS 101Km/h

On a track with less slow corners they should be way more competitive.

Fingers crossed for Monaco, the king of slow corners....

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Nikosar wrote:
19 May 2025, 10:16
The data show that P5 in qualifying was the highest outcome indeed, as Aston Martin still has problems with low speed corners (-13Kh/h vs McL and -10Km/H vs Russel in P4):

Minimum corner speed ALO: 91Km/h vs PIA 104Km/h vs RUS 101Km/h

On a track with less slow corners they should be way more competitive.

Fingers crossed for Monaco, the king of slow corners....
thats not a car characteristic. thats alonsos driving style. but watching the onboard during the race, i still think the car is a bit stiff when riding curbs

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Nikosar wrote:
19 May 2025, 10:16
The data show that P5 in qualifying was the highest outcome indeed, as Aston Martin still has problems with low speed corners (-13Kh/h vs McL and -10Km/H vs Russel in P4):

Minimum corner speed ALO: 91Km/h vs PIA 104Km/h vs RUS 101Km/h

On a track with less slow corners they should be way more competitive.

Fingers crossed for Monaco, the king of slow corners....
Monaco won't need any set up for high speed corners so it's less of a compromise.

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SSJ4 wrote:
19 May 2025, 12:11
Nikosar wrote:
19 May 2025, 10:16
The data show that P5 in qualifying was the highest outcome indeed, as Aston Martin still has problems with low speed corners (-13Kh/h vs McL and -10Km/H vs Russel in P4):

Minimum corner speed ALO: 91Km/h vs PIA 104Km/h vs RUS 101Km/h

On a track with less slow corners they should be way more competitive.

Fingers crossed for Monaco, the king of slow corners....
thats not a car characteristic. thats alonsos driving style. but watching the onboard during the race, i still think the car is a bit stiff when riding curbs
It is an AMR25 and AMR24 characteristic. Alonso spoke about it multiple time in the past GP "“Yeah, I think low speed, low speed was our weakest sector in Australia, Japan and China, Bahrain is all about low speed has been our least competitive weekend,” he said.

Is not linked to driving style cause when he had a fast car on the slow-corner he was on podiums (AMR23)

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So Monaco will be tough for AMR25.

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Nikosar wrote:
19 May 2025, 10:16
The data show that P5 in qualifying was the highest outcome indeed, as Aston Martin still has problems with low speed corners (-13Kh/h vs McL and -10Km/H vs Russel in P4):

Minimum corner speed ALO: 91Km/h vs PIA 104Km/h vs RUS 101Km/h

On a track with less slow corners they should be way more competitive.

Fingers crossed for Monaco, the king of slow corners....
Some of that is the tyre choice. If you check Fernando's Q1 run on the softs his minimum speed is about 105.

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1) Alonso was faster than Russell in the first stint. Interesting...
2) Was there any explanation for the front brake fire after the first pitstop? Did they change parts here with the upgrades? I wonder if that had impact on the rest of the race.
3) It's the first race with upgrades and they only had Lance's feedback on Friday. They will continue to optimize the setups around the new parts with Alonso .
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AR3-GP wrote:
19 May 2025, 14:57
1) Alonso was faster than Russell in the first stint. Interesting...
2) Was there any explanation for the front brake fire after the first pitstop? Did they change parts here with the upgrades? I wonder if that had impact on the rest of the race.
3) It's the first race with upgrades and they only had Lance's feedback on Friday. They will continue to optimize the setups around the new parts with Alonso .
He just was fast at 1st stint, because the full drs assist by McLaren, once he did loose the drs then the Williams did catch up really fast at Alonso. He only luck was ,that Norris couldn't pass Russell so Alonso could go under 1 sec again.
Anyway, is speak for self that Alonso even with the new set medium in the last few laps was almost 2 sec slower than the front runners,which is huge amount doesn't matter if he had to overtake.

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Nikosar wrote:
19 May 2025, 13:54
SSJ4 wrote:
19 May 2025, 12:11
Nikosar wrote:
19 May 2025, 10:16
The data show that P5 in qualifying was the highest outcome indeed, as Aston Martin still has problems with low speed corners (-13Kh/h vs McL and -10Km/H vs Russel in P4):

Minimum corner speed ALO: 91Km/h vs PIA 104Km/h vs RUS 101Km/h

On a track with less slow corners they should be way more competitive.

Fingers crossed for Monaco, the king of slow corners....
thats not a car characteristic. thats alonsos driving style. but watching the onboard during the race, i still think the car is a bit stiff when riding curbs
It is an AMR25 and AMR24 characteristic. Alonso spoke about it multiple time in the past GP "“Yeah, I think low speed, low speed was our weakest sector in Australia, Japan and China, Bahrain is all about low speed has been our least competitive weekend,” he said.

Is not linked to driving style cause when he had a fast car on the slow-corner he was on podiums (AMR23)
I looked at telemetry from qualy lap. Alonsos minimum speed was 91km/h, stroll was 103km/h. Just his driving style

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SSJ4 wrote:
19 May 2025, 15:55
Nikosar wrote:
19 May 2025, 13:54
SSJ4 wrote:
19 May 2025, 12:11


thats not a car characteristic. thats alonsos driving style. but watching the onboard during the race, i still think the car is a bit stiff when riding curbs
It is an AMR25 and AMR24 characteristic. Alonso spoke about it multiple time in the past GP "“Yeah, I think low speed, low speed was our weakest sector in Australia, Japan and China, Bahrain is all about low speed has been our least competitive weekend,” he said.

Is not linked to driving style cause when he had a fast car on the slow-corner he was on podiums (AMR23)
I looked at telemetry from qualy lap. Alonsos minimum speed was 91km/h, stroll was 103km/h. Just his driving style
You can double check also the full race telemetry on f1-tempo, Alonso Stroll vs the top teams you can clearly see very often a huge gap of +10Km/h at each slow corner even for Stroll. Especially in the first sector Stroll much slower then Alonso in the slow corners. It is truly a car negative characteristic.