2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Space-heat]

I come here for suspension news but all I get is Charles vs Lewis. Give it up people. They are on the same team. When Sainz left I thought the driver wars were over…

[Dee]

Some just can't take it when people point out that one driver has been performing better than the other.

[Fakepivot]

I come here for suspension news but all I get is Charles vs Lewis. Give it up people. They are on the same team. When Sainz left I thought the driver wars were over…

tiring to find the a post related to or discussing about technical stuff in this driver war is trying to find needle in a haystack jk..

[Waz]

This weekend execution was perfect. They even knew the car weaknesses and acted to minimize damages.
If something needs to change, then it is between technical dept. communication and definition of performance relevance of each area in development.
This is not Vasseur expertise, so maybe put someone near him, in fact copying McLaren team structure?

Maybe Jerome gets the job then

Oof, I actually forgot he was TP for the weekend. He did a great job. Could he organize the entire factory though into winners?

Replacing Vasseur would still be a mistake. Since the late 70s, Ferrari have changed TP basically every 3 years. Except Todt, who was under Di Montezemelo for 14. I think there's a lesson there for the top brass (head clowns).

Ferrari also place to much importance on the TP role. Honestly, if Toto or Horner worked at Ferrari, they would have been sacked already at various times.

[atanatizante]

Here is the race radio comms & data between HAM and Adami. Very insightful how much the drivers have to cope with and to be "babysittered"

[f1316]

This weekend execution was perfect. They even knew the car weaknesses and acted to minimize damages.
If something needs to change, then it is between technical dept. communication and definition of performance relevance of each area in development.
This is not Vasseur expertise, so maybe put someone near him, in fact copying McLaren team structure?

Maybe Jerome gets the job then

I was thinking that as well. He was TP of Venturi Racing at Formula E, worked closely with Toto at Mercedes, ran their Driver Development program, has been Deputy TP at Ferrari and runs the FDA. At least he has something on the CV to make him a candidate. Not to mention, Fred picked him so that's somewhat reassuring.

Colletta (the Le Mans team boss) seems the more likely. That said, I really don’t think they should change anything at this point - at least give Fred the chance to fix this car and see through the 2026 program. If the latter is a dud, then tbh I think some accountability is due (since that’s the big opportunity, especially for an OEM) but no point changing things before that.

[MattLightBlue]

Maybe Jerome gets the job then

I was thinking that as well. He was TP of Venturi Racing at Formula E, worked closely with Toto at Mercedes, ran their Driver Development program, has been Deputy TP at Ferrari and runs the FDA. At least he has something on the CV to make him a candidate. Not to mention, Fred picked him so that's somewhat reassuring.

Colletta (the Le Mans team boss) seems the more likely. That said, I really don’t think they should change anything at this point - at least give Fred the chance to fix this car and see through the 2026 program. If the latter is a dud, then tbh I think some accountability is due (since that’s the big opportunity, especially for an OEM) but no point changing things before that.

During the last two weeks I have never heard anyone saying Vasseur should go. I think they are gonna lose some credibility if this turns out to be true.

[codetower]

Maybe Jerome gets the job then

I was thinking that as well. He was TP of Venturi Racing at Formula E, worked closely with Toto at Mercedes, ran their Driver Development program, has been Deputy TP at Ferrari and runs the FDA. At least he has something on the CV to make him a candidate. Not to mention, Fred picked him so that's somewhat reassuring.

Colletta (the Le Mans team boss) seems the more likely. That said, I really don’t think they should change anything at this point - at least give Fred the chance to fix this car and see through the 2026 program. If the latter is a dud, then tbh I think some accountability is due (since that’s the big opportunity, especially for an OEM) but no point changing things before that.

I think bringing in Colletta would be a mistake.
First, transitioning from WEC to F1 is a completely different challenge, it's a different beast altogether. Second, is it really worth weakening a successful WEC program just to potentially gain something in F1? They’ve built a strong foundation there, and it seems risky to disrupt that momentum.

As for Fred, I agree with you, he deserves at least another year.
He’s done a decent job so far, but no one person can single-handedly make a team great. Success in F1 requires alignment across all departments, and winning takes time. Look at Mercedes, Toto is still at the helm, but they’ve been struggling. Red Bull has Horner, and despite all their success, they’re falling more and more (Maybe it was Newey? Maybe it's not Fred?).

Success takes time. Zak Brown has been at McLaren for around eight years, and even Christian Horner took a few seasons before Red Bull started winning, and even then they all had their off years. Even WITH Horner and Newey.

Fred’s only been here for two and a half years. Unless he’s lost the respect of key departments or Ferrari have a truly transformative plan in place, like a Horner-Newey type duo, cutting him loose now is a mistake, IMO.

[Macklaren]

On the topic of Fred, I thought he had the best line in the F1 movie. Got a lot of laughs!

[Sevach]

https://scuderiafans.com/behind-ferrari ... ompromise/

Ferrari and their brakes.

This is something they need to figure out for next season too.

[deadhead]

https://scuderiafans.com/behind-ferrari ... ompromise/

Ferrari and their brakes.

This is something they need to figure out for next season too.

Aero = 9/10
Suspension = 4/10
Brakes = 4/10

Overall for the car 6/10

Not too bad eh

[leblanc]

Did the aero team and chassis team only communicate through 'file transfer' or did they actually have human-to-human meetings in a room ?

Regardless, quite the L from Cardille.

He’s been gone for over a year… no one checked his work in the winter??

I know it’s ridiculous. But, that’s what I think.

[Luscion]

Ferrari:
Auto_Racer_it
exclusively reveals that Maranello is moving toward a test of the new rear suspension for the SF-25 at Mugello, using the second available filming day. The new rear suspension will debut at Spa, and there are no delays.

-
RosarioGiuliana and GiulyDuchessa explain that validating the new architecture seems necessary and will not be trivial. This is why Ferrari has already scheduled a 200-kilometer test day at Mugello in July, during which the SF-25, equipped with the new rear mechanics, will be driven.

- The test will require a critical and in-depth study of the real data collected on the track. It will be a true validation test for this new suspension. Only after the filming day will Ferrari make the final decision on whether to introduce the new suspension and when. The choice of the other circuit, Mugello instead of Fiorano, is clearly strategic, as compared to traditional activity, the Tuscan track offers more representative technical characteristics, with high-lateral-energy corners (like Arrabbiata 1 and 2) and elevation changes that place more realistic stress on the car’s platform.

- These conditions will allow the team to obtain more useful data for the mechanical calibration of the new suspension, data that would not be as significant at Fiorano. This modification should, if all goes as planned, help the SF-25 control rear movements, ensuring a more stable aero-mechanical platform and a wider operating window, which has been one of the main limitations at the start of this season.

- This plan is the main reason why Silverstone is not a suitable window for the debut of the new rear suspension. We will also not see major changes to the SF-25 in England, which will continue to study the new rear axle and aim to extract the maximum potential from the package introduced in Austria.

- Ferrari has decided to adopt a revised strategy for introducing the new component, mainly because it is a rear suspension that, as in the case of Mercedes, was not immediately optimized by the update’s promotion. This is also because the risk of being aggressive based solely on theory (not to say blindly) could damage things rather than improve them.

https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1940687542820417563
https://autoracer.it/esclusiva-ferrari- ... iore-sf25/

[Space-heat]

Ferrari:
Auto_Racer_it
exclusively reveals that Maranello is moving toward a test of the new rear suspension for the SF-25 at Mugello, using the second available filming day. The new rear suspension will debut at Spa, and there are no delays.

-
RosarioGiuliana and GiulyDuchessa explain that validating the new architecture seems necessary and will not be trivial. This is why Ferrari has already scheduled a 200-kilometer test day at Mugello in July, during which the SF-25, equipped with the new rear mechanics, will be driven.

- The test will require a critical and in-depth study of the real data collected on the track. It will be a true validation test for this new suspension. Only after the filming day will Ferrari make the final decision on whether to introduce the new suspension and when. The choice of the other circuit, Mugello instead of Fiorano, is clearly strategic, as compared to traditional activity, the Tuscan track offers more representative technical characteristics, with high-lateral-energy corners (like Arrabbiata 1 and 2) and elevation changes that place more realistic stress on the car’s platform.

- These conditions will allow the team to obtain more useful data for the mechanical calibration of the new suspension, data that would not be as significant at Fiorano. This modification should, if all goes as planned, help the SF-25 control rear movements, ensuring a more stable aero-mechanical platform and a wider operating window, which has been one of the main limitations at the start of this season.

- This plan is the main reason why Silverstone is not a suitable window for the debut of the new rear suspension. We will also not see major changes to the SF-25 in England, which will continue to study the new rear axle and aim to extract the maximum potential from the package introduced in Austria.

- Ferrari has decided to adopt a revised strategy for introducing the new component, mainly because it is a rear suspension that, as in the case of Mercedes, was not immediately optimized by the update’s promotion. This is also because the risk of being aggressive based solely on theory (not to say blindly) could damage things rather than improve them.

https://x.com/FerrariF1FRA/status/1940687542820417563
https://autoracer.it/esclusiva-ferrari- ... iore-sf25/

I don't know enough about vehicle dynamics to understand fully.

However, surely having testing and two race weekends of data (along with every subsequent race) should have given them a huge amount of empirical data to predict what they needed from the new suspension.

I could understand a team struggling season to season with changing aero, chassis, and geometries, but all of that is the same as the data they have collected; should the picture not be complete? Someone better read up on the area, would it not be surprising if they didn't nail this new rear suspension?

[deadhead]

Regardless, quite the L from Cardille.

He’s been gone for over a year… no one checked his work in the winter??

I know it’s ridiculous. But, that’s what I think.

If the new suspension fails at least we would know that Cardille had nothing to do with it