2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Redragon wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 12:27
Horner being sucked means Verstappen has signed for another team already. my opinion
Makes no sense. You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

There was an obvious power struggle between the Verstappen camp and Horner. If anything this solidifies Max's position.

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euv2 wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 12:37

Yeah, it's like sacking Sir Alex Ferguson,
I don't think the football analogy works in F1 for TP's.
If it did it would be like having a coach (Newey) that's more important than the manager (Horner)
That has never worked in football.
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I dont quite see why Max would stay if he has a good offer from Merc. That post was right, they have absolutely disintegrated. There will now be a multi year rebuilding required as a very best scenario

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Matt2725 wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 12:43
Redragon wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 12:27
Horner being sucked means Verstappen has signed for another team already. my opinion
Makes no sense. You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.

There was an obvious power struggle between the Verstappen camp and Horner. If anything this solidifies Max's position.
Well let's see nobody knows for certain. I feel Verstapen had signed a new deal during the weekend, in my opinion with another team.

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I don't understand why people think this means Max is staying, this is all more reason to leave, replacing Horner on top of the other big names they've lost this year means that it's going to be harder than ever to create the best car/team and culture. These are massive shoes to fill and the new guys can't be expected to perform miracles, Mekies doesn't even look like a long term solution, perhaps just holding position until they find someone better.

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Honestly I don't know why Max would stay, the team is in pieces, will take years to reconstruct it, and God knows how many with a subpar engine from next year. Would Max stay only because now he is "in charge" of that sinking ship ? Well good luck.

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euv2 wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 12:55
I don't understand why people think this means Max is staying, this is all more reason to leave, replacing Horner on top of the other big names they've lost this year means that it's going to be harder than ever to create the best car/team and culture. These are massive shoes to fill and the new guys can't be expected to perform miracles, Mekies doesn't even look like a long term solution, perhaps just holding position until they find someone better.
Agree. Pretty much in the abyss for the next regulation. No point staying because you and the Dad finally have full control. You’ve got full control of an empire that’s been nuked, and you two are all that’s left hiding in the bunker. Looks like zero championships on the horizon, so Max would be an idiot if he’s not signing for Merc, or hasn’t already.

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I think that now Mintzlaff can persuade Yoovidhya to sell the team to Porsche

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Brundle on Sky Sports New thinks this makes Max staying MORE likely.

If course he could be wrong, but he points out that the TP is really just a figurehead these days.
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.poz wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 13:04
I think that now Mintzlaff can persuade Yoovidhya to sell the team to Porsche
Interesting.

I'm hearing from some quarters that Mintzlaff did the Horner firing unilaterally and without Thai shareholders permission.
All media enquiries are being directed to Austria and not Red Bull's PR department(which is mahooosive).

Chelerm could fire Mintzlaff...but as yet (6pm local time in Thailand) there is no comment from Yoovidhya's.

Porsche might well be circling to put out this bonfire.
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.poz wrote:
09 Jul 2025, 13:04
I think that now Mintzlaff can persuade Yoovidhya to sell the team to Porsche
Definitely a solid idea. The team are at a pretty low point right now and Porsche would give Max another reason to stay if he hasn't made up his mind already. I'd say that Max stays next year to see the situation of the car/engine and team rebuilding before making a move. It took Niki Lauda a good amount of convincing of their 2014 project to bring Hamilton to Mercedes. I don't know who can persuade Max into joining Mercedes based on a theory that they have the best engine like Lauda did.

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Interesting, who will be TP?
Mekies is "just" CEO.