2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[zoroastar]

Max is a incredible driver, but, how much his talent is real? Maybe he looks apolicaptical because his teammates simple dont fit that car like Max, Will Max be as good as he was at Red Bull in a Mercedes? In a Ferrari? Would he do much differently at Ferrari than Hamilton is doing? For example? We don't know. With Horner leaving, it's very likely that Max will remain at Red Bull, and Alonso's chances of continuing at Aston in 2027 increase. Lance will never leave Aston, but, if next year they fight for championship ( i dont believe so much on that yet) even they not fight, Lance will be driving a Adrian Newey's car. He will need to show results, his excuses will be end next year.

even if max goes to merc i think theres a chance that they team him with russell instead of antonelli. judging by what russell is saying recently. if that happens itll be interesting to see how well they do against each other. i think max is great but hes never had any competition in his own team to deal with since his first years with ricciardo. itll definitely change the dynamics a lot. i dont see him mopping the floor with russell like he has with every teammate hes had at redbull. still, i dont think hes going anywhere until 27.

[pantherxxx]

Aston should sign Horner and Verstappen. They together with Newey it would be a dream team.

[FNTC]

I don't see it happening considering Newey left at least partly due to Horner. Look at Amanda Newey's angry social media posts from last spring etc.

[selvam_e2002]

If Honor comes in... Max will follow him. Max and Honda combination worked well in RB. I am still doubting Alonso place in AMR... Alonso and Honda will not work out...

what makes you think the verstappens would follow horner anywhere after spending the last 2 years trying to get him fired at redbull? haha. im not saying they wont work together again under the right circumstances, but you are talking like horner and jos are like old pals or something. they cant stand each other, and jos was one of horners main critics. there is a really good possibility that they fired horner in a last ditch effort to keep max from bailing to mercedes.

ya may be. I totally forgot Max father. we have to wait and see...

[diffuser]

You're allowed 3 people that you don't have to put towards the CAP. At AM F1, I think those people are Newey, Cowell and Enrico. If you go after CH, you're gonna have to pay him to come. His salary will have to be applied to the CAP. That's gonna be pricey.

[Honda Porsche fan]

Aston should sign Horner and Verstappen. They together with Newey it would be a dream team.

I think that would be a mistake if Aston Martin wants to try to sign Max. I think one of the reasons why Max might leave RB was due to Horner and RB's declining performance. Max's father Jos doesn't seem to be a Horner fan either. I think RB fired Horner to try to keep Max onboard for next season...

Reports that Max and Toto have been speaking lately. Also, I've read that Max has wanted to drive for Mercedes for some time...

If Aston Martin is to sign Max I think they would have to offer him a record salary but, I just keep reading stories that he's likely to sign with Mercedes for next season...

https://www.motorsport.com/

[SSJ4]

Wonder how much the engine stuff has do with max choice. Lobato was saying during Silverstone in the paddock. Mercedes and ferrari engines are very good. Hondas is ok and red bulls power train is behind

[-wkst-]

Mercedes will be good, no question. But Ferrari? We will see, maybe overhyped as usual. Before this season started, they were already declared champions, well, no exactly what happened...

[diffuser]

Mercedes will be good, no question. But Ferrari? We will see, maybe overhyped as usual. Before this season started, they were already declared champions, well, no exactly what happened...

And the Japaneese always downplay things. I do think the 3 current PU Manufacturers have a big edge from all the experience.

[SealTheRealDeal]

Aston should sign Horner and Verstappen. They together with Newey it would be a dream team.

Remember the "green Red Bull" allegations from 2022? I don't even want to imagine what people would say if Lawrence just straight up rebuilt Red Bull Racing...

[zoroastar]

Wonder how much the engine stuff has do with max choice. Lobato was saying during Silverstone in the paddock. Mercedes and ferrari engines are very good. Hondas is ok and red bulls power train is behind

how would lobato know? are all the PU manufacturers supplying him with data? nope. all anybody can do is make educated guesses.

if max goes to merc, it is definitely because he thinks they will have a top power unit, because they havent built a top car in 5 years now.

[zoroastar]

Mercedes will be good, no question. But Ferrari? We will see, maybe overhyped as usual. Before this season started, they were already declared champions, well, no exactly what happened...

And the Japaneese always downplay things. I do think the 3 current PU Manufacturers have a big edge from all the experience.

fuel suppliers are going to play a big part in the equation too. aramco should have a big advantage out the gate

[Rikrikrik]

Mercedes will be good, no question. But Ferrari? We will see, maybe overhyped as usual. Before this season started, they were already declared champions, well, no exactly what happened...

And the Japaneese always downplay things. I do think the 3 current PU Manufacturers have a big edge from all the experience.

fuel suppliers are going to play a big part in the equation too. aramco should have a big advantage out the gate

Yeah i read an article where they mention the fuel like the game changing for 2026 at the same level with the engine. Even Honda started maybe 1 year later, i believe they can build a strong engine, in Mclaren era they had a lot issues because mclaren had that zero and compact phylosofy, and Honda couldnt build their engine like they want.Now is so different scenario. They have Newey and Cowell working togheter and building a "unique" combo and every article said Aramco will have the best "green fuel", but, the Honda's silence makes me anxsious.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

Wonder how much the engine stuff has do with max choice. Lobato was saying during Silverstone in the paddock. Mercedes and ferrari engines are very good. Hondas is ok and red bulls power train is behind

how would lobato know? are all the PU manufacturers supplying him with data? nope. all anybody can do is make educated guesses.

if max goes to merc, it is definitely because he thinks they will have a top power unit, because they havent built a top car in 5 years now.

Thing is, if they do then McLaren would have to be the favourite to do a better job of the aero.

[diffuser]

Wonder how much the engine stuff has do with max choice. Lobato was saying during Silverstone in the paddock. Mercedes and ferrari engines are very good. Hondas is ok and red bulls power train is behind

how would lobato know? are all the PU manufacturers supplying him with data? nope. all anybody can do is make educated guesses.

if max goes to merc, it is definitely because he thinks they will have a top power unit, because they havent built a top car in 5 years now.

Thing is, if they do then McLaren would have to be the favourite to do a better job of the aero.

Tru dat.