2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Tbh, Brawn and Mercedes are the same team.

So basically other than the two teams who have had historically dominant periods, Ferrari won the most races - it’s not that terrible tbh

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It’s pretty bad.

McLaren should be able to add at least another 10 victories to that tally by the end of the season

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It's bad when you consider the drivers Ferrari has in that period. Raikkonen, Alonso, Vettel, Leclerc, Sainz, Hamilton... if you look only at the drivers, you'd assume Ferrari's success would be much much higher.

I want to add to the previous topic that Autoracer is the one who reported the power steering and the fact Leclerc protested it but was ignored. If we're choosing between listening to AR or some random youtuber, we should believe AR. But also this isn't Sainz's fault, he was just doing his job by giving feedback.

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woocasz wrote:
18 Jul 2025, 16:22
In 2024, Leclerc & Sainz requested 2 very different modifications to the power steering. Ferrari went in Sainz's direction. Hamilton, after his first laps with the SF-25, said: 'You're crazy to use power steering like that."


So Ferrari used the Sainz steering suggestion instead just listening to their faster driver. #-o
This wouldn't be remotely true and sounds more like a Hamilton fan justifying the switch with absolutely everything.

Besides that, the power steering is often different on each car. We have high profile examples from Raikkonnen and Alonso at least.

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f1316 wrote:
19 Jul 2025, 02:41
Tbh, Brawn and Mercedes are the same team.

So basically other than the two teams who have had historically dominant periods, Ferrari won the most races - it’s not that terrible tbh
Worth remembering that win tallies will get racked way more these days with 20-22+ races a year. Having the best car will massively boost win tallies.

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deadhead wrote:
19 Jul 2025, 17:07
It’s pretty bad.

McLaren should be able to add at least another 10 victories to that tally by the end of the season
It’s an arbitrary point at which to start measuring - if you started in 2000, for example, it would look very different as 2000-2008 Ferrari dominated. If you started in 2014, it might be somewhat similar but Red Bull would have a lot fewer victories. The point is that , aside from the two teams who have absolutely dominated for periods during this arbitrary stretch, Ferrari have been the closest. That’s not really good enough for a team like Ferrari - who need to be the ones dominating, at least from time to time and it’s been too long since they’ve got all the pieces right - but it does show that they’re regularly thereabouts. I don’t think it’s any kind of indictment of the team but do hope that all these recent teething problems will finally add up to a team that can nail all the elements of a new formula in 2026z