2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[ambientnoiz]

Watching lewis is so painful. He’s the type of driver where his performance is tied to his mood. The guy needs to fix his mental game

[sucof]

I am a Leclerc fan but come on, if the McLarens do not fall out their window, it would have been a third place for Leclerc.
Be real people.
Even Leclerc said he does not understand it. Of course not, he did a great lap, but it was not suddenly 3-4 tenths faster to reach the McLarens in normal circumstances.

[dialtone]

I am a Leclerc fan but come on, if the McLarens do not fall out their window, it would have been a third place for Leclerc.
Be real people.
Even Leclerc said he does not understand it. Of course not, he did a great lap, but it was not suddenly 3-4 tenths faster to reach the McLarens in normal circumstances.

That’s neither here nor there. That’s how it works in f1. Did he put in a lap that allowed him to be ahead of mercs and aston as well as the mcls? Yes, that’s all that matters.

[dia6olo]

I am a Leclerc fan but come on, if the McLarens do not fall out their window, it would have been a third place for Leclerc.
Be real people.
Even Leclerc said he does not understand it. Of course not, he did a great lap, but it was not suddenly 3-4 tenths faster to reach the McLarens in normal circumstances.

Nobody is saying otherwise.

I will say though that had Leclerc had the fortune to be in that McLaren from the start of this season, in an hypothetical scenario were there were 3 of them, he would in my opinion be comfortably ahead of both Oscar Lando in the championship.

[f1316]

2026 will be very telling for Lewis.

Several commentators have mentioned that the ground effect cars do not suit Hamilton’s natural driving style. The new cars should be closer to what he prefers.

Now whether he should have been able to adapt or not is a whole other debate, but if the new regs don’t suit him then I don’t think anyone will be surprised to see him retire at the end of 2026.

For me, I think the reality is he is now to old, and the 2026 reg changes isn't going to change that.
I think he is still a capable driver and on his day could still produce something.
But, if I have to ask myself if he could trouble the current top drivers, those 3/4/5 drivers that have that something extra, I just don't see it, certainly not over a sting of weekends.

The 2026 regs is more in Lewis direction. He just can't feel the car in ground effect. The 2026 rules will bring back cars to a more linear ramp of aero loading.

Maybe, will be interesting to see. My hypothesis is that it’s really just age and a very similar situation to Michael at the same age. Able to be good on occasion and - for a 40 year old - arguably doing ok against fast twenty-somethings, but just not able to consistently do what they could when they where in their 20s/30s. It’s normal imho.

[ScuderiaLeo]

I am a Leclerc fan but come on, if the McLarens do not fall out their window, it would have been a third place for Leclerc.
Be real people.
Even Leclerc said he does not understand it. Of course not, he did a great lap, but it was not suddenly 3-4 tenths faster to reach the McLarens in normal circumstances.

Not a single person here said otherwise... did you even read the recent posts or are you just making up comments in your head?

Everyone knows the conditions hampered McLaren. The thing to celebrate is that Leclerc put the lap in when it mattered.

[ScuderiaLeo]

I would love to see Leclerc run through that lap and give commentary. I feel very luck he's our driver and not another team's.

[Seanspeed]

Wouldn’t it be nice if drivers could go flat out for at least 3 laps on soft tyres

If the tires were so durable that the softs could last for 3 straight quali laps, every single race would be a boring one stop. This is basically exactly what happened in 2010, and why the sport took the direction it did with tires going forward. I'll take better Sundays where strategy and tire management matter, versus better Saturdays where drivers can just push a bit harder more safely. Seems like the most sensible tradeoff.

[Seanspeed]

But alonso is much older and is still performing at a high level most weekends. We all hate to see Lewis like this but i guess everyone has a different shelf life. Vettel stopped being great in his early thirties.

Alonso's performances might be felt in a different light were he racing alongside Charles Leclerc rather than Lance Stroll. lol

I also think with Vettel, he truly just lost motivation and it had nothing to do with physical aging or anything.

But yea, Lewis went from a team alongside Russell, probably the 3rd best driver on the grid, to a team alongside Leclerc, probably the 2nd best driver on the grid. That was always gonna be a tough one.

And while Lewis didn't have a great lap, should be noted he was only 0.015 seconds off getting through to Q3 and Lewis just found himself on the wrong side of those super slim margins. And it was just quite frankly - a weird day. The gap in Q3 from 1st to 6th was also only a tenth and Leclerc fortunately found himself on the right side of that.

[Seanspeed]

Ferrari has less downforce than Aston Martin with the difference that it's way less draggy. Absolutely hilarious.

Do you think the lower downforce might help us stay ahead if it's dry?

Yea, Leclerc has pretty much the ideal setup for running at the front, which is nice.

Biggest fears are obviously gonna be the long run to T1 at the start, and then of course Mclaren ganging up on him with strategy to under/over cut him. A win will still be very difficult, but if it's possible, Leclerc obviously has the best chance he could have.

[FDD]

McLs were out of their window, OK.
But Charles as he said was also out of his window.
So the question is how much everybody was out of his window.
Then, the point is to stay in the window.
If CL stays in the window and McLs not, then CL is guilty as a charge
If CL is not in his window, read the previous sentence
CL & SF25 was the best package for this qualy, I do not understand what are the people looking for!!

[Xyz22]

Ferrari has less downforce than Aston Martin with the difference that it's way less draggy. Absolutely hilarious.

Do you think the lower downforce might help us stay ahead if it's dry?

Yea, Leclerc has pretty much the ideal setup for running at the front, which is nice.

Biggest fears are obviously gonna be the long run to T1 at the start, and then of course Mclaren ganging up on him with strategy to under/over cut him. A win will still be very difficult, but if it's possible, Leclerc obviously has the best chance he could have.

McLarens are favourite for sure.
Leclerc will need a tremendous start to keep P1. Last two years the pole sitter lost multiple places because P2 had a decent start and got the inside. If you have the inside line, you can push the other on the outside and compromise him completely.

[djones]

For many reasons, next season will be an interesting life experiment for people.

Personally, I think Hamiltons strength is pushing a car to 102%. This generation of cars we have a crazy situation where you actually do better at 98%.

If the cars reward extreme driving next year, then will he do well again? Probably I’d guess.

Does age matter in racing? Of course, but I’m not sure where the crossover point is.

2021 was only 4 years ago. He walked away from Max. In fact he utterly dominated Max and won an 8th championship on merit in the last race. What was the gap pre SC?

Yes, we all know what happened and how the rules were violated to try and make exciting TV.

But it’s only 4 years. You don’t go from being a world champion to 13th place driver in that time unless there are other factors.

[dans79]

For many reasons, next season will be an interesting life experiment for people.

Personally, I think Hamiltons strength is pushing a car to 102%. This generation of cars we have a crazy situation where you actually do better at 98%.

If the cars reward extreme driving next year, then will he do well again? Probably I’d guess.

Imo, The biggest issue for all the teams is how crap the current formula is. I can't wait for next year.

[Dee]

For many reasons, next season will be an interesting life experiment for people.

Personally, I think Hamiltons strength is pushing a car to 102%. This generation of cars we have a crazy situation where you actually do better at 98%.

If the cars reward extreme driving next year, then will he do well again? Probably I’d guess.

Imo, The biggest issue for all the teams is how crap the current formula is. I can't wait for next year.

We currently have the closest grid there has ever been over a 4 year period and just because Lewis can't deal with it, it's the worst regulation ever....