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One_Warthog_9215
•I have been watching Alonso for the past 13 years now. Today's drive has been one of, if not his absolute best at Singapore.

Made it to Q3 when Lance dropped in Q1. Made up two positions at the start. Hadjar overtook him, but eventually he took back the position. He had incredible pace on the softs, and was one of the lasts to pit for a medium stint. Had a --- stop (9 sec) which put him behind a swathe of cars. Overtook Hadjar. Bearman. Sainz. Lawson. Pushed like a madman to catch Lewis. On a track where most people get stuck behind other drivers.


PassTimeActivity
•I mean, he literally did a Grand Chelem in Singapore against a faster Red Bull that was on his arse the whole race.

These quotes summarises things for me. I think it was honestly Alonso’s best race this year at least but hes had many races like it but the bad luck made him seem anonymous.

I have been watching Alonso for a lot more than 13 years.....this was great but far from his best Singapore performance which was 100% in 2008.....he was a beast, whit a car that was slower than all top teams he was already great in in free practice and quali before the mechanical problems....yes the race was fixed but Alonso was on a another level non the less.....Renault was pretty much 5th fastest car and Alonso dominated.

[Jambier]

It is important to see him perform so good this year in those kind of race I think.
Despite the frustration, lack of luck, issues with the pit stops and a slow car this year, he still manages to give 100%

That gives confidence that if the car is good next seasons, he will deliver.

All eyes on 2026 now

[diffuser]

Where are those 2026 components for testing ? they need inform those itens before TL 1 when they put they on the track? right? or we'll dont know when they will test?

Not sure why you'd be looking forward for that, They'll likely slow the car down, make hard to drive, etc. So I'd look for them at races they think they have absolutely no chance of finishing in the points.

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One_Warthog_9215
•I have been watching Alonso for the past 13 years now. Today's drive has been one of, if not his absolute best at Singapore.

Made it to Q3 when Lance dropped in Q1. Made up two positions at the start. Hadjar overtook him, but eventually he took back the position. He had incredible pace on the softs, and was one of the lasts to pit for a medium stint. Had a --- stop (9 sec) which put him behind a swathe of cars. Overtook Hadjar. Bearman. Sainz. Lawson. Pushed like a madman to catch Lewis. On a track where most people get stuck behind other drivers.


PassTimeActivity
•I mean, he literally did a Grand Chelem in Singapore against a faster Red Bull that was on his arse the whole race.

These quotes summarises things for me. I think it was honestly Alonso’s best race this year at least but hes had many races like it but the bad luck made him seem anonymous.

There’s no doubt Alonso drove a tremendous race, but credit must also go to the team — the car setup was absolutely spot-on for the race. While they’re still struggling with slow pit stops, particularly getting the rims off cleanly, the race pace was a clear standout.

Despite only qualifying 10th, the car was clearly in a different league compared to the midfield runners ahead of him. That became obvious with how effortlessly Alonso was able to pass Had, Albon, Sainz, and Bearman. Bearman, in particular, was stuck behind Sainz and couldn't find a way through, yet Alonso managed to pass both with relative ease.

Once Sainz pitted and Alonso got ahead of Bearman, he continued to pulling away from Bearman — stretching out a gap of around 10 seconds in relatively short order. And this was at a circuit where overtaking is notoriously difficult, which makes the performance even more impressive.

All in all, a brilliant drive from Alonso paired with a race car that came alive on Sunday. I'm sure those pitstop will get sorted next year with new hardware...

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One_Warthog_9215
•I have been watching Alonso for the past 13 years now. Today's drive has been one of, if not his absolute best at Singapore.

Made it to Q3 when Lance dropped in Q1. Made up two positions at the start. Hadjar overtook him, but eventually he took back the position. He had incredible pace on the softs, and was one of the lasts to pit for a medium stint. Had a --- stop (9 sec) which put him behind a swathe of cars. Overtook Hadjar. Bearman. Sainz. Lawson. Pushed like a madman to catch Lewis. On a track where most people get stuck behind other drivers.


PassTimeActivity
•I mean, he literally did a Grand Chelem in Singapore against a faster Red Bull that was on his arse the whole race.

These quotes summarises things for me. I think it was honestly Alonso’s best race this year at least but hes had many races like it but the bad luck made him seem anonymous.

There’s no doubt Alonso drove a tremendous race, but credit must also go to the team — the car setup was absolutely spot-on for the race. While they’re still struggling with slow pit stops, particularly getting the rims off cleanly, the race pace was a clear standout.

Despite only qualifying 10th, the car was clearly in a different league compared to the midfield runners ahead of him. That became obvious with how effortlessly Alonso was able to pass Had, Albon, Sainz, and Bearman. Bearman, in particular, was stuck behind Sainz and couldn't find a way through, yet Alonso managed to pass both with relative ease.

Once Sainz pitted and Alonso got ahead of Bearman, he continued to pulling away from Bearman — stretching out a gap of around 10 seconds in relatively short order. And this was at a circuit where overtaking is notoriously difficult, which makes the performance even more impressive.

All in all, a brilliant drive from Alonso paired with a race car that came alive on Sunday. I'm sure those pitstop will get sorted next year with new hardware...

I think an important part of the strategy was extending the soft tyre run long enough to run the rest of the race on mediums. I am glad the team did not overreact to the early pit stops and stick on the hards, which typically makes the car uncompetitive.

If it is truly a hardware issue with the pit stops, that is simply inexcusable. Low 2 second stops have been the norm for half a decade now. This high 2 second to 4 second stops with the occasional botched stop should not be happening in F1. The wheel nut design should only become more refined and reliable over time with evolution, not the opposite.

[diffuser]

I think an important part of the strategy was extending the soft tyre run long enough to run the rest of the race on mediums. I am glad the team did not overreact to the early pit stops and stick on the hards, which typically makes the car uncompetitive.

If it is truly a hardware issue with the pit stops, that is simply inexcusable. Low 2 second stops have been the norm for half a decade now. This high 2 second to 4 second stops with the occasional botched stop should not be happening in F1. The wheel nut design should only become more refined and reliable over time with evolution, not the opposite.

The 2022 rules brought in 18' standardized rims. So 2022 was new, they improved some for 2023 and 2024. Then opted to not change anything in 2025 from 2024, they opted to focus all that for 2026. It can't be the guys don't know how to remove a rim, it's getting stuck that's a hardware problem. They got to figure out why it's getting stuck and prevent it. I don't know if they have to use different materials, rim ejection springs or what but the rim has to come off fast. Someone should ask Cowell "Dude, what's with the rims getting stuck all them time?" HOPEFULL, he'll say it's a known problem we'll fix it next year.

I also wanted to add that they made the softs of the first stint last the laps that a first stint mediums would and they made the mediums of the 2nd stint last the same number of laps as a 2nd stint hards would. The first stint was significantly slower than the leaders but in the 2nd stint they had similar pace to the leaders.

[Ashwinv16]

Austin could be a massive surprise if the car can run like it did in Hungary but with Silverstone levels in terms of suspension tuning. Sao Paolo and Qatar as well but all are sprints. The rest will be like Baku. Also saw some one talk about 2026 parts. Except to see them in Mexico and well pretty much there only (maybe Abu Dhabi) as the higher altitude can help cancel out downforce levels to 2026 levels as well and engine performance. Basically they are going to pretend the engine to have the 50-50 split running the car in that engine map and analyze how much cooling it will need and also analyze car ride height movements buy running less downforce than what's required for Mexico to match why 2026 cars will run at. Tyre changes mean they can't do much about suspension and stuff but they may try who knows. Would not be surprised if they even get disqualified after the race in Mexico.

[diffuser]

Austin could be a massive surprise if the car can run like it did in Hungary but with Silverstone levels in terms of suspension tuning. Sao Paolo and Qatar as well but all are sprints. The rest will be like Baku. Also saw some one talk about 2026 parts. Except to see them in Mexico and well pretty much there only (maybe Abu Dhabi) as the higher altitude can help cancel out downforce levels to 2026 levels as well and engine performance. Basically they are going to pretend the engine to have the 50-50 split running the car in that engine map and analyze how much cooling it will need and also analyze car ride height movements buy running less downforce than what's required for Mexico to match why 2026 cars will run at. Tyre changes mean they can't do much about suspension and stuff but they may try who knows. Would not be surprised if they even get disqualified after the race in Mexico.

I agree, could be a surprise. Austin is a Medium Down Force track...not really compatible to Hungry. They struggled alot with turn 11 last year(the turn before the long straight). Atleast it's not a LDF like Baku. Silverstone, Qatar and Mexico are also high DF. Mexico Qatar were smooth last year so their is hope there, if we forget how poorly they did in Mexico the last 2 years there. Thing with Mexico is you run HDF wings but you don't get HDF because of how thin the air is. AM F1 are good in HDF but it also depends on the speed of the corners, tend to struggle with HS corners.


I don't believe any of the PU stuff. Why would AM F1 test that with a Merc PU? Why would Merc allow them to do that? How relative would the data be to Honda? Besides Honda's been probably running the 2026 PU in a RIG where they can simulate all that and all the vibrations and Gs.

Some of the parts they wanted to test were suspension parts from 2026.

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One_Warthog_9215
•I have been watching Alonso for the past 13 years now. Today's drive has been one of, if not his absolute best at Singapore.

Made it to Q3 when Lance dropped in Q1. Made up two positions at the start. Hadjar overtook him, but eventually he took back the position. He had incredible pace on the softs, and was one of the lasts to pit for a medium stint. Had a --- stop (9 sec) which put him behind a swathe of cars. Overtook Hadjar. Bearman. Sainz. Lawson. Pushed like a madman to catch Lewis. On a track where most people get stuck behind other drivers.


PassTimeActivity
•I mean, he literally did a Grand Chelem in Singapore against a faster Red Bull that was on his arse the whole race.

These quotes summarises things for me. I think it was honestly Alonso’s best race this year at least but hes had many races like it but the bad luck made him seem anonymous.

I have been watching Alonso for a lot more than 13 years.....this was great but far from his best Singapore performance which was 100% in 2008.....he was a beast, whit a car that was slower than all top teams he was already great in in free practice and quali before the mechanical problems....yes the race was fixed but Alonso was on a another level non the less.....Renault was pretty much 5th fastest car and Alonso dominated.

Singapore 2010 would like to talk to you about this statement...

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These quotes summarises things for me. I think it was honestly Alonso’s best race this year at least but hes had many races like it but the bad luck made him seem anonymous.

There’s no doubt Alonso drove a tremendous race, but credit must also go to the team — the car setup was absolutely spot-on for the race. While they’re still struggling with slow pit stops, particularly getting the rims off cleanly, the race pace was a clear standout.

Despite only qualifying 10th, the car was clearly in a different league compared to the midfield runners ahead of him. That became obvious with how effortlessly Alonso was able to pass Had, Albon, Sainz, and Bearman. Bearman, in particular, was stuck behind Sainz and couldn't find a way through, yet Alonso managed to pass both with relative ease.

Once Sainz pitted and Alonso got ahead of Bearman, he continued to pulling away from Bearman — stretching out a gap of around 10 seconds in relatively short order. And this was at a circuit where overtaking is notoriously difficult, which makes the performance even more impressive.

All in all, a brilliant drive from Alonso paired with a race car that came alive on Sunday. I'm sure those pitstop will get sorted next year with new hardware...

I think an important part of the strategy was extending the soft tyre run long enough to run the rest of the race on mediums. I am glad the team did not overreact to the early pit stops and stick on the hards, which typically makes the car uncompetitive.

If it is truly a hardware issue with the pit stops, that is simply inexcusable. Low 2 second stops have been the norm for half a decade now. This high 2 second to 4 second stops with the occasional botched stop should not be happening in F1. The wheel nut design should only become more refined and reliable over time with evolution, not the opposite.

thats true, but even mclaren is having issues with their equipment right now. averaging a really bad pit stop per race, and they are saying its probably not going to get better until they fix it in the offseason. i think the pit equipment is a race series unto itself really. all the teams are constantly trying to improve and upgrade. its just another aspect that aston needs to improve to compete with the top teams. i dont remember them ever averaging a low-mid 2 second pit stop in a race ever.

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i dont remember them ever averaging a low-mid 2 second pit stop in a race ever.

You are not wrong because Aston Martin never does low 2-second pitstops. The fastest Alonso stop I can recall was in Japan last year which was 2.4 seconds, and Alonso thought it was quick because he was so used to slower stops. I think Stroll may have had a 2.3 once. Mid 2s are the best this team does and they are not done with regularity.

[diffuser]

i dont remember them ever averaging a low-mid 2 second pit stop in a race ever.

You are not wrong because Aston Martin never does low 2-second pitstops. The fastest Alonso stop I can recall was in Japan last year which was 2.4 seconds, and Alonso thought it was quick because he was so used to slower stops. I think Stroll may have had a 2.3 once. Mid 2s are the best this team does and they are not done with regularity.

Generally they're in the middle of the pack, if they don't have problems ... Usually .5 from the best.Here I took Bahrain and an sorted by time. You can see all the teams are inconsistent. Norris has the fastest pitstop at 24.035 but his totasl time is 53.857 which is slower than Alonso's 49 and change. Even the teams with the best times can sometimes be 1 second slower. Think they're biggest problems is when RIMs are hard to remove or put on(Stick).

FORMULA 1 GULF AIR BAHRAIN GRAND PRIX 2025 - PIT STOP SUMMARY
  
11 - 13 APR 2025
Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir
STOPS	NO.	DRIVER	TEAM	                LAP	TIME OF DAY	TIME	TOTAL
2	4	Lando Norris	McLaren	        32	18:56:52	24.035	53.857
1	63	George Russell	Mercedes	13	18:25:13	24.044	24.044
2	63	George Russell	Mercedes	32	18:56:48	24.1	48.144
1	5	Gabriel Bortole	Kick Sauber	13	18:25:42	24.143	24.143
2	30	Liam Lawson	Racing Bulls	32	18:57:56	24.191	49.433
1	27	Nico Hulkenber	Kick Sauber	5	18:12:19	24.229	24.229
2	16	Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	        32	18:56:49	24.241	49.043
2	27	Nico Hulkenber	Kick Sauber	27	18:49:07	24.291	48.52
2	55	Carlos Sainz	Williams	32	18:57:31	24.315	48.915
1	44	Lewis Hamilton	Ferrari	        17	18:32:01	24.34	24.34
2	44	Lewis Hamilton	Ferrari	        32	18:57:05	24.35	48.69
1	81	Oscar Piastri	McLaren	        14	18:26:48	24.498	24.498
2	12	Kimi Antonelli	Mercedes	27	18:48:46	24.506	49.313
1	87	Oliver Bearman	Haas	        14	18:27:13	24.562	24.562
2	18	Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	32	18:57:57	24.592	49.203
1	55	Carlos Sainz	Williams	14	18:27:10	24.6	24.6
1	18	Lance Stroll	Aston Martin	12	18:23:59	24.611	24.611
2	6	Isack Hadjar	Racing Bulls	28	18:50:42	24.64	49.905
3	12	Kimi Antonelli	Mercedes	32	18:57:41	24.693	01:14.0
2	22	Yuki Tsunoda	Red Bull Racing	32	18:57:32	24.771	51.264
1	7	Jack Doohan	Alpine	        9	18:18:50	24.791	24.791
1	16	Charles Leclerc	Ferrari	        17	18:31:51	24.802	24.802
1	12	Kimi Antonelli	Mercedes	12	18:23:41	24.807	24.807
1	14	Fernando Alons	Aston Martin	16	18:30:38	24.826	24.826
2	31	Esteban Ocon	Haas	        27	18:48:45	24.832	49.708
2	14	Fernando Alons	Aston Martin	32	18:57:44	24.846	49.672
1	31	Esteban Ocon	Haas	        8	18:17:10	24.876	24.876
2	87	Oliver Bearman	Haas	        32	18:57:37	24.895	49.457
2	81	Oscar Piastri	McLaren	        32	18:56:38	24.9	49.398
2	10	Pierre Gasly	Alpine	        28	18:50:18	24.958	49.991
1	10	Pierre Gasly	Alpine	        10	18:20:24	25.033	25.033
2	7	Jack Doohan	Alpine	        28	18:50:30	25.093	49.884
1	30	Liam Lawson	Racing Bulls	14	18:27:19	25.242	25.242
1	6	Isack Hadjar	Racing Bulls	6	18:13:56	25.265	25.265
1	23	Alexander Albo	Williams	16	18:30:32	25.394	25.394
2	5	Gabriel Bortole	Kick Sauber	32	18:58:04	25.396	49.539
2	23	Alexander Albo	Williams	32	18:57:37	25.99	51.384
1	22	Yuki Tsunoda	Red Bull Racing	11	18:22:08	26.493	26.493
1	1	Max Verstappen	Red Bull Racing	10	18:20:25	26.518	26.518
2	1	Max Verstappen	Red Bull Racing	26	18:47:10	28.067	54.585
1	4	Lando Norris	McLaren	        10	18:20:17	29.822	29.822
3	55	Carlos Sainz	Williams	44	19:19:11	37.116	01:26.0

[madridista]

i dont remember them ever averaging a low-mid 2 second pit stop in a race ever.

You are not wrong because Aston Martin never does low 2-second pitstops. The fastest Alonso stop I can recall was in Japan last year which was 2.4 seconds, and Alonso thought it was quick because he was so used to slower stops. I think Stroll may have had a 2.3 once. Mid 2s are the best this team does and they are not done with regularity.

Generally they're in the middle of the pack, if they don't have problems ... Usually .5 from the best.

More like almost a second to the fastest team. This is a season average from all the pitstops excluding fw changes, as of Singapore.



Credits to Kevin Hermann. Found this on twitter and I could not find his original post/journal which is why I cant link it.

[diffuser]

You are not wrong because Aston Martin never does low 2-second pitstops. The fastest Alonso stop I can recall was in Japan last year which was 2.4 seconds, and Alonso thought it was quick because he was so used to slower stops. I think Stroll may have had a 2.3 once. Mid 2s are the best this team does and they are not done with regularity.

Generally they're in the middle of the pack, if they don't have problems ... Usually .5 from the best.

More like almost a second to the fastest team. This is a season average from all the pitstops excluding fw changes, as of Singapore.

https://ibb.co/ZzkVFRPd

Credits to Kevin Hermann. Found this on twitter and I could not find his original post/journal which is why I cant link it.

Right but that includes pit stops like Alonso had on Sunday, were the tire got stuck and they couldn't get it off. Everyone will agree those happen too frequently. What I am saying is when they don't have problems, they're middle of the pack. The long stops are due to equipment problems, they're gonna have to do something about the equipment. Since it's all completely being redesigned for 2026, hopefully it works better.

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More like almost a second to the fastest team. This is a season average from all the pitstops excluding fw changes, as of Singapore.

https://ibb.co/ZzkVFRPd

Credits to Kevin Hermann. Found this on twitter and I could not find his original post/journal which is why I cant link it.

it was part of his Singapore post-weekend analysis for motorsport-total/formel1.de on Youtube