2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[diffuser]

More like almost a second to the fastest team. This is a season average from all the pitstops excluding fw changes, as of Singapore.

https://ibb.co/ZzkVFRPd

Credits to Kevin Hermann. Found this on twitter and I could not find his original post/journal which is why I cant link it.

it was part of his Singapore post-weekend analysis for motorsport-total/formel1.de on Youtube

That report actual Confirms what I was saying, McLaren are only .3 of a second faster than us on average and 6th worst team but have a HUGE constructors lead. You don't have to be great pitstop to win. It's true this year and will like be more true next year when some team will likely run away with it.

[Waz]

I think an important part of the strategy was extending the soft tyre run long enough to run the rest of the race on mediums. I am glad the team did not overreact to the early pit stops and stick on the hards, which typically makes the car uncompetitive.

If it is truly a hardware issue with the pit stops, that is simply inexcusable. Low 2 second stops have been the norm for half a decade now. This high 2 second to 4 second stops with the occasional botched stop should not be happening in F1. The wheel nut design should only become more refined and reliable over time with evolution, not the opposite.

The 2022 rules brought in 18' standardized rims. So 2022 was new, they improved some for 2023 and 2024. Then opted to not change anything in 2025 from 2024, they opted to focus all that for 2026. It can't be the guys don't know how to remove a rim, it's getting stuck that's a hardware problem. They got to figure out why it's getting stuck and prevent it. I don't know if they have to use different materials, rim ejection springs or what but the rim has to come off fast. Someone should ask Cowell "Dude, what's with the rims getting stuck all them time?" HOPEFULL, he'll say it's a known problem we'll fix it next year.

I also wanted to add that they made the softs of the first stint last the laps that a first stint mediums would and they made the mediums of the 2nd stint last the same number of laps as a 2nd stint hards would. The first stint was significantly slower than the leaders but in the 2nd stint they had similar pace to the leaders.

I saw a post somewhere else, analyzing the Singapore pit stops, and what surprised me was that it mentioned AM use Mercedes pit stop equipment.

It's a surprise that they still use it, especially after Toto openly admitted that he doesn't see the investment into improving pit stops as worthwhile, back in 2021.

[diffuser]

The 2022 rules brought in 18' standardized rims. So 2022 was new, they improved some for 2023 and 2024. Then opted to not change anything in 2025 from 2024, they opted to focus all that for 2026. It can't be the guys don't know how to remove a rim, it's getting stuck that's a hardware problem. They got to figure out why it's getting stuck and prevent it. I don't know if they have to use different materials, rim ejection springs or what but the rim has to come off fast. Someone should ask Cowell "Dude, what's with the rims getting stuck all them time?" HOPEFULL, he'll say it's a known problem we'll fix it next year.

I also wanted to add that they made the softs of the first stint last the laps that a first stint mediums would and they made the mediums of the 2nd stint last the same number of laps as a 2nd stint hards would. The first stint was significantly slower than the leaders but in the 2nd stint they had similar pace to the leaders.

I saw a post somewhere else, analyzing the Singapore pit stops, and what surprised me was that it mentioned AM use Mercedes pit stop equipment.

It's a surprise that they still use it, especially after Toto openly admitted that he doesn't see the investment into improving pit stops as worthwhile, back in 2021.

The rims and the nuts are standard in F1. Would make sense that the guns are too, not sure about that. Narrows down the problem for us doesn't it? Has to be the hub side. They do invest in that alot!

[BassVirolla]

The 2022 rules brought in 18' standardized rims. So 2022 was new, they improved some for 2023 and 2024. Then opted to not change anything in 2025 from 2024, they opted to focus all that for 2026. It can't be the guys don't know how to remove a rim, it's getting stuck that's a hardware problem. They got to figure out why it's getting stuck and prevent it. I don't know if they have to use different materials, rim ejection springs or what but the rim has to come off fast. Someone should ask Cowell "Dude, what's with the rims getting stuck all them time?" HOPEFULL, he'll say it's a known problem we'll fix it next year.

I also wanted to add that they made the softs of the first stint last the laps that a first stint mediums would and they made the mediums of the 2nd stint last the same number of laps as a 2nd stint hards would. The first stint was significantly slower than the leaders but in the 2nd stint they had similar pace to the leaders.

I saw a post somewhere else, analyzing the Singapore pit stops, and what surprised me was that it mentioned AM use Mercedes pit stop equipment.

It's a surprise that they still use it, especially after Toto openly admitted that he doesn't see the investment into improving pit stops as worthwhile, back in 2021.

The rims and the nuts are standard in F1. Would make sense that the guns are too, not sure about that. Narrows down the problem for us doesn't it? Has to be the hub side. They do invest in that alot!

It can be something related to manufacturing tolerances. From a slip fit to a tight fit is easily achievable with brake-like temperatures (as in mounting hot bearings in a shaft at room temperature).

Edit: And what are the tolerances for such spec rims? Is always well known that even in spec series not all teams run with exactly equal engines. And furthermore, how are handled by the manufacturer the sorting of "not so perfect' parts (we are talking about a pair of hundreths of a mm to get from slip to tight).

[Nikosar]

According to RmcMotori. Leclerc’s management has already spoken to Aston Martin, Merceds and McLaren for a move in 2027.

Not only Russel but also now Leclerc is a potential driver for Aston Martin in 2027

[diffuser]

According to RmcMotori. Leclerc’s management has already spoken to Aston Martin, Merceds and McLaren for a move in 2027.

Not only Russel but also now Leclerc is a potential driver for Aston Martin in 2027

Considering that new regs are gonna shake things up, I don't think that is anything more than expected behavior from a top tier F1 driver. If AM F1 suck in 2026, I don't think he'll be looking here. He's just keeping his options open for greener pastures.

[Nikosar]

According to RmcMotori. Leclerc’s management has already spoken to Aston Martin, Merceds and McLaren for a move in 2027.

Not only Russel but also now Leclerc is a potential driver for Aston Martin in 2027

Considering that new regs are gonna shake things up, I don't think that is anything more than expected behavior from a top tier F1 driver. If AM F1 suck in 2026, I don't think he'll be looking here. He's just keeping his options open for greener pastures.

Yes it is true. It is also a leverage for him during his negotiations.

But it also true that Aston has a seat available for 2027 and regardless of the performance, it is a place where compensation is worth thinking about it.

[peewon]

According to RmcMotori. Leclerc’s management has already spoken to Aston Martin, Merceds and McLaren for a move in 2027.

Not only Russel but also now Leclerc is a potential driver for Aston Martin in 2027

The only way I see Russell leaving is if Verstappen jumps to Mercedes. Unless Mercedes is hopeless which I dont expect them to be. If Verstappen is leaving Red Bull in '27, he will be the first choice for every team and the other drivers will have to wait till he decides. I think chances of Verstappen leaving could be very good. I have a feeling that the RBPT power unit wont be great.

[diffuser]

According to RmcMotori. Leclerc’s management has already spoken to Aston Martin, Merceds and McLaren for a move in 2027.

Not only Russel but also now Leclerc is a potential driver for Aston Martin in 2027

Considering that new regs are gonna shake things up, I don't think that is anything more than expected behavior from a top tier F1 driver. If AM F1 suck in 2026, I don't think he'll be looking here. He's just keeping his options open for greener pastures.

Yes it is true. It is also a leverage for him during his negotiations.

But it also true that Aston has a seat available for 2027 and regardless of the performance, it is a place where compensation is worth thinking about it.

The thing is, if AM F1 has the kind of success that would attract some like Leclerc, good luck trying to take that seat away from Alonso. There would have to be this mix of situations where the car is great but Alonso struggles to adapt his driving to the 2026 regs.

[kptaylor]

And, finally, dealing with the Lance underperformance issue. He needs to go so they can attract two top tier drivers to make any sort of focused run at WCC.

[RedNEO]

Considering that new regs are gonna shake things up, I don't think that is anything more than expected behavior from a top tier F1 driver. If AM F1 suck in 2026, I don't think he'll be looking here. He's just keeping his options open for greener pastures.

Yes it is true. It is also a leverage for him during his negotiations.

But it also true that Aston has a seat available for 2027 and regardless of the performance, it is a place where compensation is worth thinking about it.

The thing is, if AM F1 has the kind of success that would attract some like Leclerc, good luck trying to take that seat away from Alonso. There would have to be this mix of situations where the car is great but Alonso struggles to adapt his driving to the 2026 regs.

And Alonso is known to adapt to anything he’s given the fastest normally. Paired with a Newey car this will be a deadly combo!

[Nikosar]

Considering that new regs are gonna shake things up, I don't think that is anything more than expected behavior from a top tier F1 driver. If AM F1 suck in 2026, I don't think he'll be looking here. He's just keeping his options open for greener pastures.

Yes it is true. It is also a leverage for him during his negotiations.

But it also true that Aston has a seat available for 2027 and regardless of the performance, it is a place where compensation is worth thinking about it.

The thing is, if AM F1 has the kind of success that would attract some like Leclerc, good luck trying to take that seat away from Alonso. There would have to be this mix of situations where the car is great but Alonso struggles to adapt his driving to the 2026 regs.

I hope he realises his goal of winning in 2026. After that, man he already sacrificed a lot for sport so I’d would be happy to see him founding his own family rather that chasing a title that may not come …

That’s my point of view even if I would love to see him win again.