2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Matteo Togninalli (head of track engineering) saying they make a mistake in Singapore

"Formula 1 is always a trade-off between risk and pushing to the limit. In Singapore, consciously, we approached the quali and the race with a car that we knew was on the limit. We were aware that in the race, we would need some management for the brakes. Then due to the situation, due to the level of management that we have done, we arrived to run out of brakes the last four laps of the race. So we were a bit too aggressive, that is a mistake. I think we have to admit when we make mistakes. our method was not able to predict the fact that the choice was too aggressive. So we have to improve the tools to be able to predict what is going to happen.

"We are speeding up the process of improving the tools. We have a good sample now because most of the time you learn from critical cases. If everything is smooth and easy, it's difficult to learn. So when you are at the limit, you learn. As well as in Mexico, we have to be a bit more conscious. I think it's just a reasonable approach."
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10768416/

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Luscion wrote:
17 Oct 2025, 20:36
Matteo Togninalli (head of track engineering) saying they make a mistake in Singapore

"Formula 1 is always a trade-off between risk and pushing to the limit. In Singapore, consciously, we approached the quali and the race with a car that we knew was on the limit. We were aware that in the race, we would need some management for the brakes. Then due to the situation, due to the level of management that we have done, we arrived to run out of brakes the last four laps of the race. So we were a bit too aggressive, that is a mistake. I think we have to admit when we make mistakes. our method was not able to predict the fact that the choice was too aggressive. So we have to improve the tools to be able to predict what is going to happen.

"We are speeding up the process of improving the tools. We have a good sample now because most of the time you learn from critical cases. If everything is smooth and easy, it's difficult to learn. So when you are at the limit, you learn. As well as in Mexico, we have to be a bit more conscious. I think it's just a reasonable approach."
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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferr ... /10768416/
Highly likely that he will be fired next year

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Gearbox change for Lec, unsurprisingly he doesn't look comfortable. This new suspension has been terrible for him and getting no real FP time doesn't help

Maybe Ham can get 1st-2nd row

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
17 Oct 2025, 23:47
Gearbox change for Lec, unsurprisingly he doesn't look comfortable. This new suspension has been terrible for him and getting no real FP time doesn't help

Maybe Ham can get 1st-2nd row
Give me some of whatever you are smoking…barely got in to q3

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Lol to be fair to me, he looked good in SQ1.

But I should know better than to expect stuff from this shitty car

It's hard to believe we got 4 podiums earlier in the year with this same car.

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Lewis and Charlie got into q3 in the 7th fastest car. Insane

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getting beaten by a Sauber and Williams is rough, really wish they didnt cancel upgrades as early as they did

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Luscion wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:19
getting beaten by a Sauber and Williams is rough, really wish they didnt cancel upgrades as early as they did
Lec was only +0.005 off of Albon (I wasn't even expecting Lec to make SQ3)

But I wonder how much the canceled floor would have helped.. maybe nothing, but also maybe something, I guess we'll never know

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:21
Luscion wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:19
getting beaten by a Sauber and Williams is rough, really wish they didnt cancel upgrades as early as they did
Lec was only +0.005 off of Albon (I wasn't even expecting Lec to make SQ3)

But I wonder how much the canceled floor would have helped.. maybe nothing, but also maybe something, I guess we'll never know
Yea good recovery from leclerc

I don't understand why they cancelled a floor that was already being built and iirc it wasn't even a budget issue

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One second off the pole. Wow. That is being outdeveloped at a high rate. Now the perennial midfield cars have gained ground also. Its gonna be ugly until the end of the seadon.

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Hammerfist wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:41
One second off the pole. Wow. That is being outdeveloped at a high rate. Now the perennial midfield cars have gained ground also. Its gonna be ugly until the end of the seadon.
Is it too late for them to bring any sort of upgrades? Id assume it would be hard if not near impossible with next year's car in the wind tunnel and departments having switched over to working on that

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Luscion wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:50
Hammerfist wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:41
One second off the pole. Wow. That is being outdeveloped at a high rate. Now the perennial midfield cars have gained ground also. Its gonna be ugly until the end of the seadon.
Is it too late for them to bring any sort of upgrades? Id assume it would be hard if not near impossible with next year's car in the wind tunnel and departments having switched over to working on that
I don't think there's any incentive to do this to be honest. Is a potential P2 in the constructors really worth compromising 2026 for? Just take 4th and the extra wind tunnel time for next year. There isn't anything meaningful left for Ferrari to fight for this season.
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JPower wrote:
17 Oct 2025, 18:03

They also chose to keep him in charge for 2 decades which is unheard of in F1.

Great coaches, managers, executives, drivers, etc. have been fired throughout sports history.

Doesn't mean they won't or can't go on to be successful elsewhere.
By coincidence, Federico Albano on Twitter pointed out that the top 7 cars in SQ today all had drivers/team members that were fired by or left Ferrari (Mekies, Stella, Binotto, Allison, Alonso, Sainz). :lol:

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Luscion wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:50

Is it too late for them to bring any sort of upgrades? Id assume it would be hard if not near impossible with next year's car in the wind tunnel and departments having switched over to working on that
Vasseur said at the Maranello EV event that they aren't bringing anything for the season except more cooling for Mexico. They can't produce any new/extra parts because they have 99% resources into 2026. This includes not reverting back to the old suspension.

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Hammerfist wrote:
18 Oct 2025, 00:41
One second off the pole. Wow. That is being outdeveloped at a high rate. Now the perennial midfield cars have gained ground also. Its gonna be ugly until the end of the seadon.
Next year will be worse. A weekend like this one will be considered positive in 2026.
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