2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Henri]

Lets hope they change setup for qualifying . Who designedvthis car cardile because its slower than the previous car

[PlatinumZealot]

Honestly i dont favor Horner but fact is he can do things which are needed in Ferrari.
Build a system, not just a car, clear roles, short decision paths, and accountability that bites.
Ruthless performance management: weak links get fixed fast (people, process, suppliers).
Driver & media containment, he shields engineers from circus noise so the factory iterates in peace.

Now what ferrari really need
Governance clarity, one boss with real authority from board to garage. No committee racing.
Process discipline pre-briefs/after-action reviews that actually change behavior (strategy errors there weren’t “bad luck,” they were process failures).
Hiring freedom, let the boss import lieutenants in aero, strategy, ops, and build a spine around them.
Comms control, fewer headlines, more lap time. Shut the leaks, standardize messaging.

We are lacking at places and team looks like a clown show, its worth the risk to give Horner a chance.

This is the problem, we don't know if Horner can do this! He's the among the set of team principals who are not technical.. Hired in a time to oversee and police on behalf of another big boss. Not much sturctural building skills are required. People on the inside might say he got really good people from the start already to build these structures for him.

[PlatinumZealot]

Lets hope they change setup for qualifying . Who designedvthis car cardile because its slower than the previous car

Fingers crossed Ferrari is anticipting the temperatures for the race and set up the car around that. Otherwise... It's looking very grim..

[Sergej]

Lets hope they change setup for qualifying . Who designedvthis car cardile because its slower than the previous car

Fingers crossed Ferrari is anticipting the temperatures for the race and set up the car around that. Otherwise... It's looking very grim..

Ferrari are not able to properly setup the car for the track that they have under their nose, let alone anticipate for the track on Sunday which will be just a couple of degrees colder. Truth is the car is a turd which has not been updated for months, actually has been downgraded with that amazing new rear suspension. As I said, it'll be 6 weekends very painful to watch.

[Badger]

Honestly i dont favor Horner but fact is he can do things which are needed in Ferrari.
Build a system, not just a car, clear roles, short decision paths, and accountability that bites.
Ruthless performance management: weak links get fixed fast (people, process, suppliers).
Driver & media containment, he shields engineers from circus noise so the factory iterates in peace.

Now what ferrari really need
Governance clarity, one boss with real authority from board to garage. No committee racing.
Process discipline pre-briefs/after-action reviews that actually change behavior (strategy errors there weren’t “bad luck,” they were process failures).
Hiring freedom, let the boss import lieutenants in aero, strategy, ops, and build a spine around them.
Comms control, fewer headlines, more lap time. Shut the leaks, standardize messaging.

We are lacking at places and team looks like a clown show, its worth the risk to give Horner a chance.

This is the problem, we don't know if Horner can do this! He's the among the set of team principals who are not technical.. Hired in a time to oversee and police on behalf of another big boss. Not much sturctural building skills are required. People on the inside might say he got really good people from the start already to build these structures for him.

Yes, we can be quite certain that Jaguar F1 was on track to recruiting Adrian Newey and Rob Marshall, and winning the double in 2010, before Horner was appointed to “police and oversee” the team.

[Badger]

Honestly i dont favor Horner but fact is he can do things which are needed in Ferrari.
Build a system, not just a car, clear roles, short decision paths, and accountability that bites.
Ruthless performance management: weak links get fixed fast (people, process, suppliers).
Driver & media containment, he shields engineers from circus noise so the factory iterates in peace.

Now what ferrari really need
Governance clarity, one boss with real authority from board to garage. No committee racing.
Process discipline pre-briefs/after-action reviews that actually change behavior (strategy errors there weren’t “bad luck,” they were process failures).
Hiring freedom, let the boss import lieutenants in aero, strategy, ops, and build a spine around them.
Comms control, fewer headlines, more lap time. Shut the leaks, standardize messaging.

We are lacking at places and team looks like a clown show, its worth the risk to give Horner a chance.

This is the problem, we don't know if Horner can do this! He's the among the set of team principals who are not technical.. Hired in a time to oversee and police on behalf of another big boss. Not much sturctural building skills are required. People on the inside might say he got really good people from the start already to build these structures for him.

Yes, we can be quite certain that Jaguar F1 was on track to recruiting Adrian Newey and Rob Marshall, and winning the double a few years later, before Horner was appointed to “police and oversee” the team.

[toraabe]

Lets hope they change setup for qualifying . Who designedvthis car cardile because its slower than the previous car

Fingers crossed Ferrari is anticipting the temperatures for the race and set up the car around that. Otherwise... It's looking very grim..

Ferrari are not able to properly setup the car for the track that they have under their nose, let alone anticipate for the track on Sunday which will be just a couple of degrees colder. Truth is the car is a turd which has not been updated for months, actually has been downgraded with that amazing new rear suspension. As I said, it'll be 6 weekends very painful to watch.

Hamilton came to Ferrari because of Fred Vasseur. That's it. If he goes Hamilton goes...

[PlatinumZealot]

Yes, we can be quite certain that Jaguar F1 was on track to recruiting Adrian Newey and Rob Marshall, and winning the double a few years later, before Horner was appointed to “police and oversee” the team.

Horner didn't attract Newey, it was David Coulthard who did.

Rob Marshall joined on his own ambitions applying for a career step-up. It wasn't any head hunting situation.

Anyway, you are as only as good as your last race and Horner ended up repelling people from his own team... Very unlikely people will be attracted to work with him now if he goes to Ferrari. Too much baggage. Too much risk of division and making matters worse.

[Badger]

Yes, we can be quite certain that Jaguar F1 was on track to recruiting Adrian Newey and Rob Marshall, and winning the double a few years later, before Horner was appointed to “police and oversee” the team.

Horner didn't attract Newey, it was David Coulthard who did.

Rob Marshall joined on his own ambitions applying for a career step-up. It wasn't any head hunting situation.

Anyway, you are as only as good as your last race and Horner ended up repelling people from his own team... Very unlikely people will be attracted to work with him now if he goes to Ferrari. Too much baggage. Too much risk of division and making matters worse.

And who recruited Coulthard? It was a joint operation. Horner wanted Newey and he found a way to approach him through DC.

You make it seem like Marshall just showed up in MK one day, taking an office. Of course he was recruited and probably had several teams vying for his attention.

I’m not here to say that Horner is perfect or necessarily the right choice for Ferrari, but your take on his tenure is about as far from reality as it gets. He’s the only active TP who can genuinely claim that he built a top team out of a back marker. Maybe that’s not what Ferrari needs right now, but it should be respected and not revised into made up nonsense.

[RonMexico]

Yes, we can be quite certain that Jaguar F1 was on track to recruiting Adrian Newey and Rob Marshall, and winning the double a few years later, before Horner was appointed to “police and oversee” the team.

Horner didn't attract Newey, it was David Coulthard who did.

Rob Marshall joined on his own ambitions applying for a career step-up. It wasn't any head hunting situation.

Anyway, you are as only as good as your last race and Horner ended up repelling people from his own team... Very unlikely people will be attracted to work with him now if he goes to Ferrari. Too much baggage. Too much risk of division and making matters worse.

It's a bit of stretch to say all these things were coincidence.

He has won 8 drivers championships and 6 constructors championships as team principal with two different drivers, across two different engine regulations and with two different engine suppliers. Some of those were even as a non works team.

Ferrari needs a schumser to insulate the team from the noise, Horner is built for the role.

[ScuderiaLeo]

It goes without saying that P4 P5 is an amazing result for them, though mostly because of the bad luck for McLaren and Alonso. Lec still didn't look comfortable in the car but Ham looked great. I still wish we could bring back the old suspension just for Lec so we could see if they might both be comfortable then, maybe gain some consistency.

As well as something strange during the sprint from Lec's radio

Bozzi told him to use a specific engine mode under the SC (one they don't use often) and Lec asked "just for the SC right?" Bozzi replied "No, for the whole race." Lec said "We can't race like that" so Bozzi amended "Okay, just for the SC."

Is the rumor that Lec's engine is on its last legs true? But many other drivers have the same engine age. Did Ferrari not manage their engines properly earlier in the year?

Edit Sky said Leclerc had damage from Tsunoda when they looked at the replay of the start. Not sure how much it affected him, Bozzi said it was nothing

[ScuderiaLeo]

In the media pen the drivers seem confident the team has found the proper direction for tomorrow, they used different settings today to refine data and make up for the loss yesterday. I hope they're right..

[DJ Downforce]

In the media pen the drivers seem confident the team has found the proper direction for tomorrow, they used different settings today to refine data and make up for the loss yesterday. I hope they're right..

Since Zandvoort they don't have an actual good setup in FP1, any good result in fp1 comes from high engine modes.

[deadhead]

In the media pen the drivers seem confident the team has found the proper direction for tomorrow, they used different settings today to refine data and make up for the loss yesterday. I hope they're right..

Won’t matter if they start from row 4 or 5 on the grid

[ScuderiaLeo]

The biggest problem is the time difference between qualifying and the race. I predict lots of LiCo tomorrow because they need to heat up the tires for quali.