2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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organic wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 10:52
Personally I think the upgrade will come at Vegas or later. You would expect Marko would know if it can be done in time for Mexico
Sounds a bit late. There’s two weeks between Mexico and Brazil. Wache gave the impression that this had been greenlit a while back. If they have something I’d expect it in Brazil. Got to risk it for the biscuit even if it’s a sprint, every race matters.

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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2025, 14:55
I wonder if they need to consider more extreme measures with Tsunoda? Have they stockpiled PUs for him yet? His PU must be set to explode in Las Vegas. It's an easy race track with a lot of laptime to gain on the straights. It may be the ideal conditions for him to challenge the Mclarens again.
They need to give a new front like one max is using which is more loaded and have a bit of flex.yuki was using lunch spec wing in Austin? Not even the wing he ran in Baku .if redbull wanted yuki to to be close to mclaren they got the tools,but for some reasons they are not prepared to make him look like a hero.

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Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 13:38
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2025, 14:55
I wonder if they need to consider more extreme measures with Tsunoda? Have they stockpiled PUs for him yet? His PU must be set to explode in Las Vegas. It's an easy race track with a lot of laptime to gain on the straights. It may be the ideal conditions for him to challenge the Mclarens again.
They need to give a new front like one max is using which is more loaded and have a bit of flex.yuki was using lunch spec wing in Austin? Not even the wing he ran in Baku .if redbull wanted yuki to to be close to mclaren they got the tools,but for some reasons they are not prepared to make him look like a hero.
He has all the new parts Bill
Call a spade, a spade.

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f1isgood wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:02
Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 13:38
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2025, 14:55
I wonder if they need to consider more extreme measures with Tsunoda? Have they stockpiled PUs for him yet? His PU must be set to explode in Las Vegas. It's an easy race track with a lot of laptime to gain on the straights. It may be the ideal conditions for him to challenge the Mclarens again.
They need to give a new front like one max is using which is more loaded and have a bit of flex.yuki was using lunch spec wing in Austin? Not even the wing he ran in Baku .if redbull wanted yuki to to be close to mclaren they got the tools,but for some reasons they are not prepared to make him look like a hero.
He has all the new parts Bill
Max propagandists in his purist form even facts no longer matter it's about the belief. Yuki got a new floor and wing in Baku ,he ran with the same parts in Singapore but for Austin he used a front from way back.Max got a much more loaded front wing in Baku that help attrack the corners and cure understeer and was further developed for Singapore and Austin. That just facts.

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Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:16
f1isgood wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:02
Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 13:38

They need to give a new front like one max is using which is more loaded and have a bit of flex.yuki was using lunch spec wing in Austin? Not even the wing he ran in Baku .if redbull wanted yuki to to be close to mclaren they got the tools,but for some reasons they are not prepared to make him look like a hero.
He has all the new parts Bill
Max propagandists in his purist form even facts no longer matter it's about the belief. Yuki got a new floor and wing in Baku ,he ran with the same parts in Singapore but for Austin he used a front from way back.Max got a much more loaded front wing in Baku that help attrack the corners and cure understeer and was further developed for Singapore and Austin. That just facts.
I think this is mostly about your feelings towards Max unfortunately. If Yuki ran a wing from way back despite having more recent iterations available, it’s probably because that was the wing he felt most comfortable with. It’s been well documented that Max’s teammates can’t handle as much front end as he can, so it’s no surprise they run less loaded wings. The idea that Yuki would suddenly be beating McLarens if you gave him Max’s front wing is beyond silly, he’d probably be spinning into the barrier. Remember that’s what happened when he took upgraded parts in Imola.

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Badger wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:33
Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:16
f1isgood wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:02

He has all the new parts Bill
Max propagandists in his purist form even facts no longer matter it's about the belief. Yuki got a new floor and wing in Baku ,he ran with the same parts in Singapore but for Austin he used a front from way back.Max got a much more loaded front wing in Baku that help attrack the corners and cure understeer and was further developed for Singapore and Austin. That just facts.
I think this is mostly about your feelings towards Max unfortunately. If Yuki ran a wing from way back despite having more recent iterations available, it’s probably because that was the wing he felt most comfortable with. It’s been well documented that Max’s teammates can’t handle as much front end as he can, so it’s no surprise they run less loaded wings. The idea that Yuki would suddenly be beating McLarens if you gave him Max’s front wing is beyond silly, he’d probably be spinning into the barrier. Remember that’s what happened when he took upgraded parts in Imola.
He did just fun on merit in baku he kept norris and Ferraris behind.give him the parts and let see what happens the car is now balanced and not prone vicious snaps from earlier in the year. That front wing would have helped him in Singapore were you need maximum downforce so it's not just about driver preferences.

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Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 15:09
Badger wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:33
Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:16

Max propagandists in his purist form even facts no longer matter it's about the belief. Yuki got a new floor and wing in Baku ,he ran with the same parts in Singapore but for Austin he used a front from way back.Max got a much more loaded front wing in Baku that help attrack the corners and cure understeer and was further developed for Singapore and Austin. That just facts.
I think this is mostly about your feelings towards Max unfortunately. If Yuki ran a wing from way back despite having more recent iterations available, it’s probably because that was the wing he felt most comfortable with. It’s been well documented that Max’s teammates can’t handle as much front end as he can, so it’s no surprise they run less loaded wings. The idea that Yuki would suddenly be beating McLarens if you gave him Max’s front wing is beyond silly, he’d probably be spinning into the barrier. Remember that’s what happened when he took upgraded parts in Imola.
He did just fun on merit in baku he kept norris and Ferraris behind.give him the parts and let see what happens the car is now balanced and not prone vicious snaps from earlier in the year. That front wing would have helped him in Singapore were you need maximum downforce so it's not just about driver preferences.
Yeah but McLaren didn’t do fine in Baku, they bottled the entire weekend. Baku was also the race where Yuki couldn’t pass a Racing Bull despite coming out right behind on fresh rubber. So his pace wasn’t anything special as his teammate cruised to victory 35 seconds up the road.

Simply put, Max can drive the car in a way that Yuki can’t and that’s also reflected in their choice of front wing.

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Nice talk between Calum Nicholas and Laurent Mekies.

In Episode 1 of Securing the Win, Oracle Red Bull Racing Team Principal Laurent Mekies joins host Calum Nicholas to
discuss how trust, culture, and structure keep the team performing under pressure.

The Power of Dreams!

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Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:16
f1isgood wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:02
Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 13:38

They need to give a new front like one max is using which is more loaded and have a bit of flex.yuki was using lunch spec wing in Austin? Not even the wing he ran in Baku .if redbull wanted yuki to to be close to mclaren they got the tools,but for some reasons they are not prepared to make him look like a hero.
He has all the new parts Bill
Max propagandists in his purist form even facts no longer matter it's about the belief. Yuki got a new floor and wing in Baku ,he ran with the same parts in Singapore but for Austin he used a front from way back.Max got a much more loaded front wing in Baku that help attrack the corners and cure understeer and was further developed for Singapore and Austin. That just facts.
He does have all the parts. Just because he doesn't use them doesn't mean he doesn't have them. These are also just facts.

For all your conspiracies at least try to come up with a good realistic one. Something I can actually believe. Yuki's ceiling might be better than it shows but it's irrelevant to his current performances.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 15:09
Badger wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:33
Bill wrote:
22 Oct 2025, 14:16

Max propagandists in his purist form even facts no longer matter it's about the belief. Yuki got a new floor and wing in Baku ,he ran with the same parts in Singapore but for Austin he used a front from way back.Max got a much more loaded front wing in Baku that help attrack the corners and cure understeer and was further developed for Singapore and Austin. That just facts.
I think this is mostly about your feelings towards Max unfortunately. If Yuki ran a wing from way back despite having more recent iterations available, it’s probably because that was the wing he felt most comfortable with. It’s been well documented that Max’s teammates can’t handle as much front end as he can, so it’s no surprise they run less loaded wings. The idea that Yuki would suddenly be beating McLarens if you gave him Max’s front wing is beyond silly, he’d probably be spinning into the barrier. Remember that’s what happened when he took upgraded parts in Imola.
He did just fun on merit in baku he kept norris and Ferraris behind.give him the parts and let see what happens the car is now balanced and not prone vicious snaps from earlier in the year. That front wing would have helped him in Singapore were you need maximum downforce so it's not just about driver preferences.
Ok since none of us have 'insiders' within the team (I assume) , what are you inkling at ?
That even when they have enough parts for both cars, Redbull deliberately want to ensure Yuki is given a sub-par car inorder for him to have sub-par results , so that he can be 'thrown under the bus' when it comes to the 2026 seat ? That it doesn't matter (the FoM money and pride to go with it) if they don't finish P2 in the constructors ? That Verstappen's contract has a clause which ensures the 2nd driver always gets a sub-par car ? Seriously, I am curious to know. Otherwise, I would like to have what you are smoking for a dose of delirium.

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Yuki has a role to play. First of all, there's still a lot at stake in the Constructors' Championship, he said. Of course, we're no longer fighting for the world title, but we are for the positions behind it. So we need Yuki's points.

Secondly, the faster Yuki is, the more we can spread the testing across both cars. So it's important that we have a fast Yuki, Mekies added
https://www.grandprix.com/news/tsunodas ... warns.html


I think I put it all together for you Bill. Mekies is making Yuki slow so that Yuki can't help the "dutch sausage".
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The walls are closing in, Bill. Your excuses won't work here. Yuki is being supported 100% in this team. Yuki now has his car setup like it was at VCARB.

“Laurent has helped me with a lot of things. The set-up that I tried two races ago, for example, was the one that I used at almost every race at VCARB” Tsunoda explained. “I kind of forgot about these things, also that specific set-up, as I thought it was default at the previous team. When I came to this team, it was different how they set up the car and things like that.” “Laurent told the engineering side 'okay, Yuki was doing these kinds of things to add some performance on one of the axles or to drive it around certain corners'. When I tried those things in the Red Bull car, they actually still worked,” Tsunoda explained. “The feeling that I got from the car is much more familiar now, more what I used to have.”
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/how- ... /10764342/

Mekies has done everything in his power to make him comfortable.

Tsunoda himself swiftly admitted that during media day in Singapore. “Without Laurent's ideas, I wouldn't have been able to come up with it myself. That's what I appreciate. Also on the relationship side, it's always been very good. It's literally what I used to have at VCARB. It feels exactly the same, just the team logos are different now when I speak with him!”
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CjC wrote:
17 Oct 2025, 23:45
They are just so focused on Max. Who on earth would want to be the second driver
You were quiet when Max missed his final run in Q3 because of the team. The post above is for your viewing as well.
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Let's say you're right, conspiracy theorists

Oh no, how could they! They focused on the guy who's suddenly in a championship fight as soon as the car is capable. Such an audacious act

Besides, is having two good drivers even worth it? McLaren might be demonstrating that hazard by the end of the season

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Red Bull shouldn't spend any resources on Yuki's car, focus everything on bringing that one upgrade as soon as possible. Even 1 tenth improvement could be the difference between losing and winning.