2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

You can see the car hit the bump and just destabilize every time. Easily a tenth to two lost.

reminds me of Baku last year...

[euv2]

Disastrous, the pace was just not there, the S2 fast section has to be the worst a RB car has done in recent memory.

[Dee]

Why did they put on a new floor! They must have seen the S2, don't understand why they didn't change back to it for FP3...

[Sergej]

only positive is that tomorrow Leclerc will try a giga divebomb to get P1 in T1

[euv2]

Why did they put on a new floor! They must have seen the S2, don't understand why they didn't change back to it for FP3...

They really should have, it was bad decision making by them. It obvious when Yuki was so close, esp in sector 2. They should have known the new floor wasn't producing the desired performance. To not test it in fp3 is a big question mark for the team.

[Badger]

Car looked very mediocre all day. Bottoming out like crazy in S2. Maybe running that low will help in the race but it certainly didn’t in quali.

It’s gonna need a lot of luck now. Lando has 4 hungry sharks on his tail going into T1. If he survives the start it’s game over.

[AR3-GP]

Car looked very mediocre all day. Bottoming out like crazy in S2. Maybe running that low will help in the race but it certainly didn’t in quali.

It’s gonna need a lot of luck now. Lando has 4 hungry sharks on his tail going into T1. If he survives the start it’s game over.

The car will be slightly higher in the race because they will be going slower through there. So maybe the ride height is more suited to the race but was too low for qualifying.

[Sergej]

It won't be easy at all to get on the podium, I'm already visualizing 40 laps behind Russell...

[Vettel165]

Yeah that p4 or p5 was expected after FP3. The car just wasnt good enough in S2. its reality this high-downforce track just doesnt suit red bull. Lets accept this now. It could be a chaos into that turn1, We have Kimi behind and Russel in the middle, while Ferrari drivers will probably attack Lando. Will see, what would be a good damage limitation would be P3 or P2 tomorrow. In all other scenarios thats it for 2026. Have to take a deep breath now, slightly sad, but lets just get over it. And never stop believing...

[Dee]

Car looked very mediocre all day. Bottoming out like crazy in S2. Maybe running that low will help in the race but it certainly didn’t in quali.

It’s gonna need a lot of luck now. Lando has 4 hungry sharks on his tail going into T1. If he survives the start it’s game over.

The car will be slightly higher in the race because they will be going slower through there. So maybe the ride height is more suited to the race but was too low for qualifying.

Fingers crossed!!

[Sergej]

ok Max saying race pace won't be good as well

[CjC]

Yea Max doesn’t sound too optimistic

[Vettel165]

Well good night...

[Emag]

I think to understand what's going on with RedBull every grand prix is really straightforward honestly. Just hear what Max has to say every time he gets out of the car. The man has no filters and will call it as he sees it. This weekend it has been the first since Zandvoort that he has not felt 100% with the car. Didn't like the balance, too many changes, some of which were reverted going into Quali. Didn't like it in quali as well.

Obviously I don't expect him to be 1s off the pace tomorrow like he was in FP2 for sure, but I suppose this time around, the "complains" are also a bit visible on the body language of the car. Barring some crazy condition changes tomorrow, it doesn't seem like he should have the pace of the cars ahead (except maybe Russell), but Ferrari could be limited by LiCo at some point too.

And of course, this is all assuming a clean race. It's not like chance for carnage is low here. He could get really lucky if Norris crashes out in lap 1 taking one of the Ferraris with him.

[venkyhere]

Reading the published datasheet of the changes, looks like A LOT for the (N-4)th race of the last year of a regulation. This is the engineering team in full-on attack mode (probably planned 4-5 months ago). However, I won't get excited just yet, will wait until end of FP3. The team has a not-very-old history of 'upgrades' ending up as 'updates' , hopefully not this time.

The cooling stuff tends to be mexico specific. It is therefore planned well in advance and common for most teams. I've heard that the floor stuff is just CFD going straight to track as it's not a revolution, it's just refinement. The RB21 windtunnel model has been collecting dust for a while.

Sure but it's a refinement on the Monza floor. I'd be surprised if they put this to production without confirmation at Monza.

Also Monza floor worked better than expected so I hope this upgrade works better than expected as well.

The cooling louvres are Mexico specific, but my read is that the rest of the cooling update is not.

This may be the engine cover (minus louvres) that will be used in Brazil, Qatar, and AD.

Yes I did understand from the document that the changes are circuit specific cooling needs and the floor revision. My surprise is that they are going ultra-aggressive with the shape of the floor tunnel ('lowered uoper floor surface') - unsure whether it is fore or aft of the venturi neck, apart from a 'sidepod revision' that is mentioned as well. I rather expected some edge wing changes only, to clean-up/modify the edge vortices. This is like a 'main' change. Hence my comment.

As I feared, they bit more than what they can chew. The hope was nice while it lasted. Anyway, it was worth a try.