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P14... Need a miracle for points...

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So, the gamble didn't pay off at all. Who knows what could have been... probably not much more, maybe P13.

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I havent had time to look at long runs, is it as bad there too?

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FNTC wrote:
25 Oct 2025, 23:43
I havent had time to look at long runs, is it as bad there too?
There was drop off after 5 laps, but a lot of other teams had the same issues. No chance of scoring points unless there is fireworks into turn 1 tomorrow.

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SchuMassa wrote:
25 Oct 2025, 23:43
So, the gamble didn't pay off at all. Who knows what could have been... probably not much more, maybe P13.
What gamble?

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TyreSlip wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 00:02
FNTC wrote:
25 Oct 2025, 23:43
I havent had time to look at long runs, is it as bad there too?
There was drop off after 5 laps, but a lot of other teams had the same issues. No chance of scoring points unless there is fireworks into turn 1 tomorrow.

We've definitely sucked big time in Mexico for several years now. Starting 14th isn't surprising. Alonso can easily make up 4 positions on the start but you need luck or pace to hold it, who knows how tomorrow will play out.

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im sure they wouldnt scrub the tires if it didnt help somehow haha. or at least, the benefits outweigh the cost. i think letting them cure and then cool down makes their performance less variable over a stint on the aston. maybe it gives them a bigger window in the pit strategies. not sure how it helps in quali, but they will probably be using at least some of the quali tires in the race.

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zoroastar wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 06:53
im sure they wouldnt scrub the tires if it didnt help somehow haha. or at least, the benefits outweigh the cost. i think letting them cure and then cool down makes their performance less variable over a stint on the aston. maybe it gives them a bigger window in the pit strategies. not sure how it helps in quali, but they will probably be using at least some of the quali tires in the race.
Agreed, they must find some benefit in doing it. There is an activation chemical on the surface of those tires that makes them shiny. So they're just wiping that off.

It almost looked to me that they used only 1 set of softs for all of Quali. I can't be sure cause it's not as obvious to tell the difference between a used set of tires and a scrub set from the onboard camera.
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26 Oct 2025, 10:05
It almost looked to me that they used only 1 set of softs for all of Quali. I can't be sure cause it's not as obvious to tell the difference between a used set of tires and a scrub set from the onboard camera.
Alonso took 3 scrubbed sets in Q1, then a used (4 laps, from Q1) and the final scrubbed for Q2, according to live timing.

It isn't always 100% accurate, but as this also would be what makes most sense, I think it should be.

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search wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 10:27
diffuser wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 10:05
It almost looked to me that they used only 1 set of softs for all of Quali. I can't be sure cause it's not as obvious to tell the difference between a used set of tires and a scrub set from the onboard camera.

Alonso took 3 scrubbed sets in Q1, then a used (4 laps, from Q1) and the final scrubbed for Q2, according to live timing.

It isn't always 100% accurate, but as this also would be what makes most sense, I think it should be.
Alonso only scrubbed 3 sets of softs in FP3. Live timing always assumes you're coming out with new tires. It's dumb.

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diffuser wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 14:41
search wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 10:27
diffuser wrote:
26 Oct 2025, 10:05
It almost looked to me that they used only 1 set of softs for all of Quali. I can't be sure cause it's not as obvious to tell the difference between a used set of tires and a scrub set from the onboard camera.

Alonso took 3 scrubbed sets in Q1, then a used (4 laps, from Q1) and the final scrubbed for Q2, according to live timing.

It isn't always 100% accurate, but as this also would be what makes most sense, I think it should be.
Alonso only scrubbed 3 sets of softs in FP3. Live timing always assumes you're coming out with new tires. It's dumb.
he did so for 2 sets in FP2 already as well, meaning all of his sets available for Q1 and Q2 were scrubbed.