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[Emag]

Max I think was fair and dropped behind the 2 Ferraris, but I don't know how Charles was allowed to keep P2.

I don't know who said it before, but all this lap 1 crap flying under the radar together with the completely pointless VSC at the end makes this one of the worst races ever from a stewardship perspective.

[ScuderiaLeo]

The pace compared to Verstappen wasn't bad considering the soft was the better tire

[ScuderiaLeo]

Max I think was fair and dropped behind the 2 Ferraris, but I don't know how Charles was allowed to keep P2.

I don't know who said it before, but all this lap 1 crap flying under the radar together with the completely pointless VSC at the end makes this one of the worst races ever from a stewardship perspective.

From Ferrari's side I think they didn't want them to swap back because Leclerc had newer tires. But since Ferrari didn't ask Leclerc to swap back I don't blame him for not giving it up, if they'd asked and he said no that would be another story but they didn't ask

As for the stewards, they're just inconsistent. The stewards should be looked at for their lack of impartiality

[Emag]

Max I think was fair and dropped behind the 2 Ferraris, but I don't know how Charles was allowed to keep P2.

I don't know who said it before, but all this lap 1 crap flying under the radar together with the completely pointless VSC at the end makes this one of the worst races ever from a stewardship perspective.

From Ferrari's side I think they didn't want them to swap back because Leclerc had newer tires. But since Ferrari didn't ask Leclerc to swap back I don't blame him for not giving it up, if they'd asked and he said no that would be another story but they didn't ask

As for the stewards, they're just inconsistent. The stewards should be looked at for their lack of impartiality

I agree with things being alright from Ferrari's point of view, but Ferrari isn't running a private race. There's supposedly rules against going off track and gaining an advantage. If the rules were being enforced correctly, he should have been forced to give it back or take a penalty. What's stopping everyone from just cutting across the grass in lap 1 and cry low grip to keep positions?

[ToffeeTyres]

If turn 1 and two had gravel in the outside none of these kind of incidents would happen where driver just cut across the grass and gain from it. Why there isn’t gravel after years of incidents like this happening since the return to this track hasn’t happened I will never know

[ScuderiaLeo]

I agree with things being alright from Ferrari's point of view, but Ferrari isn't running a private race. There's supposedly rules against going off track and gaining an advantage. If the rules were being enforced correctly, he should have been forced to give it back or take a penalty. What's stopping everyone from just cutting across the grass in lap 1 and cry low grip to keep positions?

Yeah I don't know why the stewards didn't look into it. I agree it should've been investigated, I just meant I don't understand why people in the Ferrari thread are upset with Leclerc for not giving it back. Of course he wouldn't give it back unless he was told, which he should've been by the stewards themself

Ultimately we can only judge the result that actually happened in which they both drove good races considering the circumstances. I think there are a lot of positives to take away for the team and car

[Emag]

I agree with things being alright from Ferrari's point of view, but Ferrari isn't running a private race. There's supposedly rules against going off track and gaining an advantage. If the rules were being enforced correctly, he should have been forced to give it back or take a penalty. What's stopping everyone from just cutting across the grass in lap 1 and cry low grip to keep positions?

Yeah I don't know why the stewards didn't look into it. I agree it should've been investigated, I just meant I don't understand why people in the Ferrari thread are upset with Leclerc for not giving it back. Of course he wouldn't give it back unless he was told, which he should've been by the stewards themself

Ultimately we can only judge the result that actually happened in which they both drove good races considering the circumstances. I think there are a lot of positives to take away for the team and car

From a Ferrari POV there's nothing to be upset for at all. Ferrari would have likely preferred Leclerc to be ahead anyway.

I am just pointing out the sh*thousery that happened in lap 1. FIA ignoring rules once again ...

[AnotherAlex]

Max I think was fair and dropped behind the 2 Ferraris, but I don't know how Charles was allowed to keep P2.

Charles rejoined in P1 and Max in P3, and they each relinquished a single position.
I think they both gained a similar benefit from their excursions.

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As for Lewis' later penalty; he/the team probably would have considered letting Max through, but Bearman had nipped in between them before anything could be done.

[ismail1991]

Max I think was fair and dropped behind the 2 Ferraris, but I don't know how Charles was allowed to keep P2.

Charles rejoined in P1 and Max in P3, and they each relinquished a single position.
I think they both gained a similar benefit from their excursions.

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As for Lewis' later penalty; he/the team probably would have considered letting Max through, but Bearman had nipped in between them before anything could be done.

After banging wheels with Lewis and cutting the corner, Max also stayed in the front and defended hard at the next corner. Lewis locked up and couldnt turn. Adami should have told him to maybe decrease the 2 second gap to at least 1 second again. However, it is unfathomable only Lewis got a very hard penalty through corner cutting and stuff

[dialtone]

Max I think was fair and dropped behind the 2 Ferraris, but I don't know how Charles was allowed to keep P2.

Charles rejoined in P1 and Max in P3, and they each relinquished a single position.
I think they both gained a similar benefit from their excursions.

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As for Lewis' later penalty; he/the team probably would have considered letting Max through, but Bearman had nipped in between them before anything could be done.

Lewis wasn’t penalized for gaining advantage but for not following the race director procedure.

It’s a clownshow that he was the only one penalized out of evrything that happened and he was pushed out of track illegally by Max because he did so while also causing a contact because he would have gone long to maintain the inside but was helped by Lewis to turn his car. Once again Sainz was penalized in Miami against Piastri for a similar clumsy move, that however caused exactly ZERO issues for Piastri.

The VSC at the end was also laughable.

Just a next level of incompetence, unacceptable for a multi billion dollar sport.

Also unacceptable that they take 25+ laps to even note investigations and adjudicate things that happened on lap 1, in a 1 stop race if you do that you allow cars to serve by adding time at the end instead of at the pit stop.

Simplify the book if you need 30 laps to handle a few incidents.

Pathetic and as usual most of this goes against Ferrari.

[AR3-GP]

Lewis wasn’t penalized for gaining advantage but for not following the race director procedure.

[Jdn1327]

Max I think was fair and dropped behind the 2 Ferraris, but I don't know how Charles was allowed to keep P2.

Charles rejoined in P1 and Max in P3, and they each relinquished a single position.
I think they both gained a similar benefit from their excursions.

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As for Lewis' later penalty; he/the team probably would have considered letting Max through, but Bearman had nipped in between them before anything could be done.

Lewis wasn’t penalized for gaining advantage but for not following the race director procedure.

It’s a clownshow that he was the only one penalized out of evrything that happened and he was pushed out of track illegally by Max because he did so while also causing a contact because he would have gone long to maintain the inside but was helped by Lewis to turn his car. Once again Sainz was penalized in Miami against Piastri for a similar clumsy move, that however caused exactly ZERO issues for Piastri.

The VSC at the end was also laughable.

Just a next level of incompetence, unacceptable for a multi billion dollar sport.

Also unacceptable that they take 25+ laps to even note investigations and adjudicate things that happened on lap 1, in a 1 stop race if you do that you allow cars to serve by adding time at the end instead of at the pit stop.

Simplify the book if you need 30 laps to handle a few incidents.

Pathetic and as usual most of this goes against Ferrari.

He was given a penalty for gaining an advantage after joining the race track. He was cleared of not following the race directors notes.

[dialtone]

Lewis wasn’t penalized for gaining advantage but for not following the race director procedure.

I stand corrected and this somehow makes it even worse… half of the top 10 gained advantages today by cutting, only he was punished, and again for being pushed off track. At least the race director note would have been black and white…

[Luscion]

Lewis and Russell's takes on it

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Russell -

Max fully sent it across the grass and one of the Ferraris just bails onto the grass. I struggle to understand how three drivers can cut the track and just continue with no penalty

https://www.racefans.net/2025/10/27/rus ... the-grass/

[ScuderiaLeo]

Wait so Hamilton's penalty wasn't even for the run off?! That's crazy.. how did Verstappen escape being penalized twice? He pushed Hamilton off and then he sped under the double yellow flags at the end. They need to release the full stewarding documents for things that happen in the race, what is their logic for giving Hamilton a penalty there?