2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Sergej
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excellent session...

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Seems like the RB is running high. Maybe a rain setup?

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It looked fine on the hard tyre, everything else is hard to tell

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not impressed
Beware of T-Rex

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The softs Max only did half a lap on they can keep for future sessions. Car didn't look too bad on the hards I thought?

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Don't think there's pace in the middle sector, car looks sluggish through it. Used the new floor from Mexico, I don't think they change it now. Not very encouraging, MCL look the favorites at the moment.

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organic wrote:
07 Nov 2025, 17:42
The softs Max only did half a lap on they can keep for future sessions. Car didn't look too bad on the hards I thought?
The McLarens didn't really push that hard anymore after a few fast laps on the hards / or made mistakes during later fast runs on the hard tyre.

Also, very few fastest minisectors for Max. In Monza, Baku, Austin he had much more purple minisectors. In Mexico similar to today. I feel that is a good predictor.

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Assuming that Max was on race fuel (usually the case in this session) the long run looked decent. Pretty sure the McLarens and some of the others were running sprint fuel. Similar to last year the McLaren looks unbeatable over the single lap.

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Badger wrote:
07 Nov 2025, 17:46
Assuming that Max was on race fuel (usually the case in this session) the long run looked decent. Pretty sure the McLarens and some of the others were running sprint fuel. Similar to last year the McLaren looks unbeatable over the single lap.
He had similar S1 and S3 times to Russell on hard tyre fast laps and hard tyre race sim, but was half a second slower in S2 than Russell on the race sim. Looks more like grip / setup issues than fuel related.

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Why arent they using the old floor from Austin, we looked fantastic there… With the new floor the car has no balance again, finding the right setup is very hard…. Well it was a long shot even before, its too late anyway.

But lets see…

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Cassius wrote:
07 Nov 2025, 17:49
Badger wrote:
07 Nov 2025, 17:46
Assuming that Max was on race fuel (usually the case in this session) the long run looked decent. Pretty sure the McLarens and some of the others were running sprint fuel. Similar to last year the McLaren looks unbeatable over the single lap.
He had similar S1 and S3 times to Russell on hard tyre fast laps and hard tyre race sim, but was half a second slower in S2 than Russell on the race sim. Looks more like grip / setup issues than fuel related.
S1 and S3 are very short and not that fuel sensitive, so time gaps are always pretty small there. Still, George had the edge there before his tyres fell off. If I had to guess Max was running race fuel (standard for RB) and George was running an in-between fuel load. Lower than race fuel, higher than sprint. He was too slow for sprint fuel loads.

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Vettel165 wrote:
07 Nov 2025, 17:59
Why arent they using the old floor from Austin, we looked fantastic there… With the new floor the car has no balance again, finding the right setup is very hard…. Well it was a long shot even before, its too late anyway.

But lets see…
Do you think it's that easy? Old floor is good, new floor is bad? I'm sure if that would be the case, the engineers at RBR would know it. I'm not worried because RB20 was pretty good here last year. And this car is better than RB20.

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Long runs, not much to go off of. Merc had poor deg.

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Could be Max was on race fuel yes and others on sprint-sim or something in the middle…Nearly no deg by Red Bull. I think softs and medium will be the tyre to be on because on sunday it will be 10 colder.

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Looked good on the long run on H, but the same setup in quali mode with S - looked terrible.
My wild guess is that whatever happened after Austin (Mexico floor + may be other things as well) has taken the car back to 'pre-Monza' level 'struggling to find right setup' mode, and I am almost sure the higher tyre pressures and one step harder compounds w.r.t last year, are making last years' data even less helpful. With the car's setup swinging wildly across tyre compounds, they are going with blind hope into SQ, with great unpredictability about M. Hope that's not the case, but it did look like that.

OR

they did some big change within the 'long delay' between finishing the H long run and then going for the Q run on the S.