2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Dee
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Re: 2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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euv2 wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 16:18
organic wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 15:57
Surely they go back to the old floor
Sector 2 performance so far, Max-37.625 Tsu - 37.751, Tsu was in free air vs Max who was 1.2s off Russell.
Question is, how much faster is Max vs Tsu in a sector like this? If this is where Max puts 4/5 tenths on Tsunoda in a lap, then Max should switch to the old floor..

Bill
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Re: 2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Dee wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 17:23
euv2 wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 16:18
organic wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 15:57
Surely they go back to the old floor
Sector 2 performance so far, Max-37.625 Tsu - 37.751, Tsu was in free air vs Max who was 1.2s off Russell.
Question is, how much faster is Max vs Tsu in a sector like this? If this is where Max puts 4/5 tenths on Tsunoda in a lap, then Max should switch to the old floor..
All cars were on drs train from p10 to p20

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venkyhere
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Re: 2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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best sector2 times in sprint :

NOR - 36.7
PIA - NA as he crashed early when fuel load was high
ANT - 36.7
RUS - 36.9
VER - 37.1
LEC - 37.3
HAM - 37.5
TSU - 37.7

That 0.4 disadvantage remains, expectedly. TSU's time is irrelevant irrespective of what 'experimental setup' he ran, for obvious reasons (2nd redbull driver can't drive difficult car... blah blah).

Without addressing this (more wing or less stiff suspension or ride height or whatever) core issue, it's pointless racing on Sunday. Whether wet or dry, this painful disadvantage will not 'magically go away' by lumping 'hope' on track temp or tyre age or compound delta etc. The car has to undergo some 'fix', even if it makes it worse, that risk has to be taken, because 'nothing to lose' anyway (want to see Redbull live up to their 'gambler' reputation) - otherwise all the excitement for a tight championship finish will be wasted.

For me, even a P4/P5 grid spot is fine in main Q, as long as sector2 is fixed. Without sector2, DRS cannot be used on the pit straight. Top speed will be useless without a good sector2. Only if sector2 is fixed, can the driver make 'moves' with alternate lines (wet or dry) attacking the car in front, into T1 or T4 (the only overtaking spots).

FNTC
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Both running the low DF rear wing for qualy according to Sky

CjC
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FNTC wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 19:50
Both running the low DF rear wing for qualy according to Sky
Did they run this low DF wing in the sprint?
Just a fan's point of view