2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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What in the world did they change to the car wow. What a disaster.
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This is where they really miss Perez. Excellent on tyre setup/management and with enough experience to help setup the car. Yuki is not a good marker.

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Now Red Bull's only chance is raining in the race, and Norris and Piastri are crashing out. Otherwise the WDC is over.

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PierreW wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:25
What did they do to the car?

I am speechless. Start from the pitlane and change everything.
Wont change anything. It's obvious they don't have a clue how to fix it. They can start from pitlane 10 times and will be the same story.

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Juzh wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:27
PierreW wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:25
What did they do to the car?

I am speechless. Start from the pitlane and change everything.
Wont change anything. It's obvious they don't have a clue how to fix it. They can start from pitlane 10 times and will be the same story.
Just reverting to the sprint set up would be a massive step up.

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venkyhere wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 18:29
best sector2 times in sprint :

NOR - 36.7
PIA - NA as he crashed early when fuel load was high
ANT - 36.7
RUS - 36.9
VER - 37.1
LEC - 37.3
HAM - 37.5
TSU - 37.7

That 0.4 disadvantage remains, expectedly. TSU's time is irrelevant irrespective of what 'experimental setup' he ran, for obvious reasons (2nd redbull driver can't drive difficult car... blah blah).

Without addressing this (more wing or less stiff suspension or ride height or whatever) core issue, it's pointless racing on Sunday. Whether wet or dry, this painful disadvantage will not 'magically go away' by lumping 'hope' on track temp or tyre age or compound delta etc. The car has to undergo some 'fix', even if it makes it worse, that risk has to be taken, because 'nothing to lose' anyway (want to see Redbull live up to their 'gambler' reputation) - otherwise all the excitement for a tight championship finish will be wasted.

For me, even a P4/P5 grid spot is fine in main Q, as long as sector2 is fixed. Without sector2, DRS cannot be used on the pit straight. Top speed will be useless without a good sector2. Only if sector2 is fixed, can the driver make 'moves' with alternate lines (wet or dry) attacking the car in front, into T1 or T4 (the only overtaking spots).
TSU's time is irrelevant irrespective, NO its not irrelevant the car is ---

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Change the engine and the setup for rain, then gamble on having rain.

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Juzh wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:27
PierreW wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:25
What did they do to the car?

I am speechless. Start from the pitlane and change everything.
Wont change anything. It's obvious they don't have a clue how to fix it. They can start from pitlane 10 times and will be the same story.
Its really bad, what have they done (again). Terrible

Emag
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I am a bit annoyed I had to miss Q1. Did anyone notice something glaringly off in the onboards? What happened?
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Badger
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Probably best to just start from the pit lane with a new engine.

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PierreW wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:28
Juzh wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:27
PierreW wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:25
What did they do to the car?

I am speechless. Start from the pitlane and change everything.
Wont change anything. It's obvious they don't have a clue how to fix it. They can start from pitlane 10 times and will be the same story.
Just reverting to the sprint set up would be a massive step up.
And maybe ditch the new floor while they're at it.

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Emag wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:30
I am a bit annoyed I had to miss Q1. Did anyone notice something glaringly off in the onboards? What happened?
Car was just the slowest of all, suddenly...

matt_b
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Might be worth a fresh engine and set up change rather than starting P16 with no grip.

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How a Team that dominated 2 years ago become this? Absolutely clueless about setup? Hundreds of engineers can't figure this out?

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FNTC wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:32
Emag wrote:
08 Nov 2025, 20:30
I am a bit annoyed I had to miss Q1. Did anyone notice something glaringly off in the onboards? What happened?
Car was just the slowest of all, suddenly...
Well not suddenly... it was slow in Mexico, FP1, Sprint...