2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[FNTC]

Mekies to Sky now, saying they took some more risk before qualy but it didnt work

[Bill]

Game over lads, but it was over 10 races ago. It happens what more I can say, the car is a shitbox/diva…

Now I will just enjoy the race change everything and start from the pits. It will be dry tomorrow…

We had a mega run 2021-2024 with 4 years. I will never forget this joy..

Goodnight and see ya.

i cant say next year will be better it could be as good as it gets.with flat track on next races things will get significantly better

[Dee]

Change the engine and the setup for rain, then gamble on having rain.

And go back to the old floor

[Gillian]

Change the engine and the setup for rain, then gamble on having rain.

And go back to the old floor

It's super obvious that's the problem, but if its thát obvious you'd think they would realize it right? Just doesnt make sense

[euv2]

How a Team that dominated 2 years ago become this? Absolutely clueless about setup? Hundreds of engineers can't figure this out?

They've been hit and miss for 2 years now; their simulation tools do not correlate at the expected level of a top team. According to Paul Monaghan they've added and removed downforce throughout the year to find balance it the car, now they've tried to add more load with the Mexico floor and something is off again and they've got no clue how to fix it.

Look at MCL for comparison, every update gets tested a couple races prior to check their correlation and when they put it on the car it works, they've got a great hit rate with new updates.

For all the recent talk, bigging up Mekies about his improved processes for track correlation, the team has gone back again and is now worse than it's ever been under Horner these regs. Would have been smart to wait out and see improvements over a longer period.

[Dee]

Change the engine and the setup for rain, then gamble on having rain.

And go back to the old floor

It's super obvious that's the problem, but if its thát obvious you'd think they would realize it right? Just doesnt make sense

Ego's holding back the change maybe..

[Valeo]

It looks like the new floor completely fecked the one lap pace while tyre wear seems fine also in Mexico.
Could it be? Why have they touched the car damn...

[Sergej]

"just need to fix S2"

[pantherxxx]

Tomorrow both Maccas will crash out, and Verstappen will win like last year.

[Gillian]

And go back to the old floor

It's super obvious that's the problem, but if its thát obvious you'd think they would realize it right? Just doesnt make sense

Ego's holding back the change maybe..

Either that or complete incompetence.

[pantherxxx]

If Paul Monaghan, Pierre Wache, Ben Waterhouse, and the engineers responsible for setup are so incompetent, how the hell did they dominate for years? Newey one person was responsible for the success, while there are like 600 engineers, and 1000+ total personnel working at Red Bull? I don't understand how is this possible.

[Dee]

If Paul Monaghan, Pierre Wache, Ben Waterhouse, and the engineers responsible for setup are so incompetent, how the hell did they dominate for years? Newey one person was responsible for the success, while there are like 600 engineers, and 1000+ total personnel working at Red Bull? I don't understand how is this possible.

They still are excellent, it just seems like they didn't react to the data they were seeing with the Monza upgrade, leaving it alone when it was giving much better performance than they expected.

Car was better in Singapore when it was never good there before, why not extend using it, could have been the same thing here in Brazil.

[FNTC]

Max would probably be top 4 in the vcarb... Very strange.

[Valeo]

Marko said the Mexico parts didn't deliver what they expected but they thought there is a way to extract performance.

[Emag]

Marko said the Mexico parts didn't deliver what they expected but they thought there is a way to extract performance.

If that's all there is to it, I don't understand this approach at all. If they knew the floor was tricky, why the hell didn't they swap it out after FP1. Instead they take this huge gamble and ruin the race completely.