2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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The only positive about this weekend is that Bearman has been impressive so at least Ferrari will have a good driver when Leclerc and Hamilton leave.

It's depressing that Leclerc's amazing lap yesterday turned into this.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:08
The only positive about this weekend is that Bearman has been impressive so at least Ferrari will have a good driver when Leclerc and Hamilton leave.
That's assuming he doesn't get an offer from some place else! Ferrari needs to do better than a tittle worthy car every 2 decades.
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and with that double DNF, Ferrari has dropped to 4th in the constructors

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IntrinsicVoid wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 19:34
Space-heat wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 19:20
f1isgood wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 19:16
Leclerc is 100 percent cursed.
Palmer blaming Leclerc for him crashing is absolute madness.
I don’t know why he’s still given platform so he can give bullshit takes.
I don’t think that’s what he said at all. He said it was a racing incident which, as much as it messed up our race, tbh I agree with. Three cars going into the same corner, all of whom had a right to go for it, is just likely to end up in some kind of collision and not all collisions have to result in someone being at fault - it’s racing, it happens.

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Luscion wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:43
and with that double DNF, Ferrari has dropped to 4th in the constructors
I thought you were mistaken for a second and there was no way Red Bull passed them but wow...

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f1316 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:46
IntrinsicVoid wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 19:34
Space-heat wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 19:20


Palmer blaming Leclerc for him crashing is absolute madness.
I don’t know why he’s still given platform so he can give bullshit takes.
I don’t think that’s what he said at all. He said it was a racing incident which, as much as it messed up our race, tbh I agree with. Three cars going into the same corner, all of whom had a right to go for it, is just likely to end up in some kind of collision and not all collisions have to result in someone being at fault - it’s racing, it happens.
No, Oscar is barely alongside the rear wheel of Antonelli into the braking zone and has 0 rights to the corner. Completely moronic judgement from Oscar who is driving desperately to save his fading WDC hopes. Shame Charles was the victim of it because that was a P2 drive, he was all over Kimi to start that race

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At this point a serious conversation needs to be had about replacing Lewis with Ollie sooner rather than later. Lewis week after week is looking more dejected and is consistently off the pace or making dumb errors that end his race. People say he is getting closer, I say it was that Charles didn't find the right setup with the new suspension, now he has and he is back to being much quicker again. Just frustrated after this race but Hamilton ending it on his own accord with a poor start and a terrible piece of driving is ridiculous.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:07
At this point a serious conversation needs to be had about replacing Lewis with Ollie sooner rather than later. Lewis week after week is looking more dejected and is consistently off the pace or making dumb errors that end his race. People say he is getting closer, I say it was that Charles didn't find the right setup with the new suspension, now he has and he is back to being much quicker again. Just frustrated after this race but Hamilton ending it on his own accord with a poor start and a terrible piece of driving is ridiculous.
While Hamilton made a mistake today, his previous few weekends have all been good, the bad result in Austin was no fault of his own. This was his first bad weekend since the summer, it's not like he's been off the pace this entire time.

Before jumping to conclusions let's at least finish the season.

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ScuderiaLeo wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:09
SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:07
At this point a serious conversation needs to be had about replacing Lewis with Ollie sooner rather than later. Lewis week after week is looking more dejected and is consistently off the pace or making dumb errors that end his race. People say he is getting closer, I say it was that Charles didn't find the right setup with the new suspension, now he has and he is back to being much quicker again. Just frustrated after this race but Hamilton ending it on his own accord with a poor start and a terrible piece of driving is ridiculous.
While Hamilton made a mistake today, his previous few weekends have all been good, the bad result in Austin was no fault of his own. This was his first bad weekend since the summer, it's not like he's been off the pace this entire time.

Before jumping to conclusions let's at least finish the season.
He had a bad weekend in Mexico, the race before. Austin he was slow (both Ferrari drivers have excessive LICO this year I don't really think that is a fair reason to say he didn't do well), Singapore he decided to not give a crap about saving his brakes and they blew up, Zandvoort he crashed out on his own.

There are no real excuses when you see what Leclerc does in the other car. If he is making the money of a 7 time WDC winner, he needs to perform like one, and he has come nowhere to that standard, no matter how hard people defend him.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:57
f1316 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:46
IntrinsicVoid wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 19:34


I don’t know why he’s still given platform so he can give bullshit takes.
I don’t think that’s what he said at all. He said it was a racing incident which, as much as it messed up our race, tbh I agree with. Three cars going into the same corner, all of whom had a right to go for it, is just likely to end up in some kind of collision and not all collisions have to result in someone being at fault - it’s racing, it happens.
No, Oscar is barely alongside the rear wheel of Antonelli into the braking zone and has 0 rights to the corner. Completely moronic judgement from Oscar who is driving desperately to save his fading WDC hopes. Shame Charles was the victim of it because that was a P2 drive, he was all over Kimi to start that race
He is past the rear wheel, basically in the middle of the car with his fronts and then hits him when Antonelli slightly lifted his braking.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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proteus wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:22
SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:57
f1316 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:46


I don’t think that’s what he said at all. He said it was a racing incident which, as much as it messed up our race, tbh I agree with. Three cars going into the same corner, all of whom had a right to go for it, is just likely to end up in some kind of collision and not all collisions have to result in someone being at fault - it’s racing, it happens.
No, Oscar is barely alongside the rear wheel of Antonelli into the braking zone and has 0 rights to the corner. Completely moronic judgement from Oscar who is driving desperately to save his fading WDC hopes. Shame Charles was the victim of it because that was a P2 drive, he was all over Kimi to start that race
He is past the rear wheel, basically in the middle of the car with his fronts and then hits him when Antonelli slightly lifted his braking.
Ultimately, I think blame is 60/40 on Piastri there (the rules do say that Piastri has no right to the corner and should have backed out earlier) but Kimi also drives like no one is there. Just unfortunate for Charles who did literally nothing wrong there, he left an entire car and a half worth of track to Kimi there

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:16

He had a bad weekend in Mexico, the race before. Austin he was slow (both Ferrari drivers have excessive LICO this year I don't really think that is a fair reason to say he didn't do well), Singapore he decided to not give a crap about saving his brakes and they blew up, Zandvoort he crashed out on his own.

There are no real excuses when you see what Leclerc does in the other car. If he is making the money of a 7 time WDC winner, he needs to perform like one, and he has come nowhere to that standard, no matter how hard people defend him.
Sorry I meant Mexico. It's been a long day :lol:

To be fair to him in Singapore. Adami was not telling him the extent of the potential brake failure like Bozzi was to Leclerc. Bozzi updated Leclerc almost every other lap, Adami only updated Hamilton a few times. Hamilton asked in the final stint if the brakes were okay and Adami said yes so he pushed. I wouldn't put the blame on Hamilton so much as the pit wall not conveying the problem to him.

I agree if he's still underperforming next season they should consider swapping him (he would probably just retire on his own at the end of the year.) But they might as well see how the first few races of 2026 go. I'm confident that if Hamilton likes the car he will perform at the minimum as good as Bearman would. The positive from this is that Bearman will spend more time in the lower pressure environment of Haas to weed his occasional silly mistakes.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:25
proteus wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:22
SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 20:57


No, Oscar is barely alongside the rear wheel of Antonelli into the braking zone and has 0 rights to the corner. Completely moronic judgement from Oscar who is driving desperately to save his fading WDC hopes. Shame Charles was the victim of it because that was a P2 drive, he was all over Kimi to start that race
He is past the rear wheel, basically in the middle of the car with his fronts and then hits him when Antonelli slightly lifted his braking.
Ultimately, I think blame is 60/40 on Piastri there (the rules do say that Piastri has no right to the corner and should have backed out earlier) but Kimi also drives like no one is there. Just unfortunate for Charles who did literally nothing wrong there, he left an entire car and a half worth of track to Kimi there
Indeed, Charles pulled the shortest straw in this situation. Charles said he actually blames them both equally. What can you do, he has some pretty bad luck in such cases.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:16
There are no real excuses when you see what Leclerc does in the other car. If he is making the money of a 7 time WDC winner, he needs to perform like one, and he has come nowhere to that standard, no matter how hard people defend him.
Hard to perform when the car is crap, and when it isn't the pitwall is incompetent.
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SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:16
ScuderiaLeo wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:09
SoulPancake13 wrote:
09 Nov 2025, 21:07
At this point a serious conversation needs to be had about replacing Lewis with Ollie sooner rather than later. Lewis week after week is looking more dejected and is consistently off the pace or making dumb errors that end his race. People say he is getting closer, I say it was that Charles didn't find the right setup with the new suspension, now he has and he is back to being much quicker again. Just frustrated after this race but Hamilton ending it on his own accord with a poor start and a terrible piece of driving is ridiculous.
While Hamilton made a mistake today, his previous few weekends have all been good, the bad result in Austin was no fault of his own. This was his first bad weekend since the summer, it's not like he's been off the pace this entire time.

Before jumping to conclusions let's at least finish the season.
He had a bad weekend in Mexico, the race before. Austin he was slow (both Ferrari drivers have excessive LICO this year I don't really think that is a fair reason to say he didn't do well), Singapore he decided to not give a crap about saving his brakes and they blew up, Zandvoort he crashed out on his own.

There are no real excuses when you see what Leclerc does in the other car. If he is making the money of a 7 time WDC winner, he needs to perform like one, and he has come nowhere to that standard, no matter how hard people defend him.
If the car is like this, next season. I agree.

If the car is actually a car, then need to wait and see.