2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:53
Waiting for the verdict and I'll make my criticism to those needed.
The team needs criticism regardless. This is a mess up.

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Seerix wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:03
No idea what's taking so long, they were supposed to talk with stewards 1h 15min ago.
Normally pretty quick with this can only assume McLaren are trying to argue something but not sure what it could be

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Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:04
Ben1980 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:48
Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:40


If you include the sprint Lando being 3rd on the remaining 3 races they'll be level on points. And Max with (I think) 8 race wins will take the lead.

That said, I think Lando is driving too well atm can see him either wining or 2nd and will be WDC
Still wins by 2. 22 points lost.
Ah right stilly me


Don't see Lando/McLaren botching this anyway Lando has been very solid the last few races. Hasn't been any real signs of mistakes.
He just needs to be sensible.

Though his start today, was uncharacteristically aggressive.

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Ben1980 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:04
Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:53
Waiting for the verdict and I'll make my criticism to those needed.
The team needs criticism regardless. This is a mess up.
Oh trust me. I will criticise what needs criticism. Waiting to see if the team manages to replicate a Ross Brawn 1999 Malaysia defence.

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This is a no bullshit type of infringement. You measure something, if it's off you're DSQed, end of story. No idea why it's taking so long, but anyway.

The start had the correct idea but very badly executed. You're supposed to angle the car to the outside when you brake to open up the radius for yourself while also blocking the rival slightly (Leclerc is an expert at this, both as the attacking and the defending side).

Other than that, the pace was what it was. A P2 to Max P1 would be considered a "dream result" with their expectations before heading to Vegas, but alas, a DSQ is what they will get. Lando is still in the driver's seat, but now it makes the last two races absolutely critical. If they have to play careful with the plank, then I can see Max winning this.

There was that rumor with the FIA issuing some TD for Brazil after finding out some plank-wear prevention device at some teams no? Do we know if they supposedly issued that TD before or after the Brazil race. If it's after and they get screwed this badly here in Vegas, then that's almost game over imo. They must have relied on it all season to get the pace they need to get. If it was before Brazil, then something must have gone terribly wrong with the setup of the cars this race.

Both outcomes don't make McLaren look good.
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Watto
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Ben1980 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:05
Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:04
Ben1980 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 10:48


Still wins by 2. 22 points lost.
Ah right stilly me


Don't see Lando/McLaren botching this anyway Lando has been very solid the last few races. Hasn't been any real signs of mistakes.
He just needs to be sensible.

Though his start today, was uncharacteristically aggressive.
I think the 2nd half of this year he's become more aggressive and it's been great for him. Though I think this was a step or two more than that. Maybe a bit of an escalation I'd be half expecting a silly mistake from him under pressure his past has shown but to his credit there hasn't really been any don't even really think todays move was think he needed that aggression overall and have been happy to see that side of him come out more

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Emag wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:14
This is a no bullshit type of infringement. You measure something, if it's off you're DSQed, end of story. No idea why it's taking so long, but anyway.
Perhaps Stella and Brown are trying to convince that FIA's measuring method is not correct.

Emag wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:14
There was that rumor with the FIA issuing some TD for Brazil after finding out some plank-wear prevention device at some teams no? Do we know if they supposedly issued that TD before or after the Brazil race. If it's after and they get screwed this badly here in Vegas, then that's almost game over imo. They must have relied on it all season to get the pace they need to get. If it was before Brazil, then something must have gone terribly wrong with the setup of the cars this race.

Both outcomes don't make McLaren look good.
How long before the word 'cheat' is used ? :mrgreen:
Hopefully this thread retains sanity, 24 points is still a big gap going into the last two races. However, if they have to run at suboptimal ride height, it's time for the jitters.

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IIRC there's something about teams needing to sign off on the measurements to say that they've been done correctly, to prevent appeals down the line. Could be that McLaren is holding out, grasping for something or just making the FIA go through the full motions.

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Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:28
Good. Clear breach and the correct punishment applied. Now remains to be seen how the pace will be affected in the last two races.
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Badger wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:25
IIRC there's something about teams needing to sign off on the measurements to say that they've been done correctly, to prevent appeals down the line. Could be that McLaren is holding out, grasping for something or just making the FIA go through the full motions.
They'll need a Papaya tape measure to get out of this one unscathed !

That's difficult for the team to accept, especially at this point in championship.

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It's done.

Beware of T-Rex

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Such a stupid error.

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Zak said than instead of havind Lando and Oscar fighting he would prefer Max to win the title. Well done McLaren...pathetic job. If Max will win this will be the most epic fail in Formula 1 history.

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FIA have released and confirmed it