2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:54
I think the FIA are dodgy in the name of a spectacle when and if they chose to clamp down on rules being dodged just don't think this is one of them.
If only the FIA were just as black and white in every situation where rules were clearly breached now we wouldn't have conspiracy theories.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 14:04
Only problem may be that in Qatar they will need good data from long runs to nail the ride height.
Qatar is pan flat. Abu Dhabi has developed some bumps over the years, but unless the team starts to raise the car out of fear alone, I wouldn't really expect any issues.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 14:04
Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:54
I think the FIA are dodgy in the name of a spectacle when and if they chose to clamp down on rules being dodged just don't think this is one of them.
If only the FIA were just as black and white in every situation where rules were clearly breached now we wouldn't have conspiracy theories.
Or is that anything that goes against McLaren you think is corrupt or a conspiracy theory?

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Trust me you don't want me to list the amount of rule breaches we have seen from various teams without penalty.

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Sieper wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:01
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23 Nov 2025, 12:55
Ruh roh. How long has this been going on for. Reminiscent of Ferrari in 2022 after the infamous TD 39.
Since Miami 2024?
This transgression has certainly opened up Pandora's box.

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This looks like a terrible setup mistake. They were scraping along like crazy, you could tell that much from the race. If it was indeed linked to that rumor about the TD in Brazil, they would have just raised the car and been suspiciously slower. Instead they run lower than they have ever run before this season.

It's a bit of a clown show to be honest. Such a catastrophic mistake. If they end up losing the title, it wont be just because of this, okay, but it will still be considered one of the biggest bottles of our time. Reminds me of 2010 and Ferrari completely throwing the championship with Alonso on the last race. Andrea literally was begging Alonso to get them out of it with the "Use the best of your talent, we know how big it is" radio message.

As if Alonso could do anything when you put him on the back foot on a season which was notoriously bad for overtaking.
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CjC wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 12:07
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23 Nov 2025, 12:00
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23 Nov 2025, 11:29


Good. Clear breach and the correct punishment applied. Now remains to be seen how the pace will be affected in the last two races.
I immediately thought this as well, this happening after the "heating devices" directive, they could very well be nowhere the last couple of races.
0.12mm under. Don’t think they’ll be nowhere in the last couple of races.
We shall see, pretty soon.

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The heating up skid block thing. Isn't that the skid blocks were heated to stop wear on the plank. But this is a DQ because of wear on the skid blocks themselves. Not sure that all tallies up.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 14:03
Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:57
FittingMechanics wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:39
They didn't have a good long run in FP1 and it cost them. --- happens.

The end result is that Norris needs to beat Verstappen over one of the remaining two weekends and he is the champion. It's not the end of the world.

Let's get him in Qatar.
Lando only needs to finish 3rd in the 2 races and sprint with Max winning them all and he is the WDC. Hes in too good a form to muck that up IMO the only question I would have would be if there was something about the skid block heating stuff and McLaren are forced to raise the cars and lose performance..

Lando has been super solid the last month or two
That change was in Brazil. They had good pace there and good pace here. With better data they would have avoided the penalty.

I know about finishing 3rd but it's a dangerous thing. Let's hope he has pace to beat Max in one weekend to seal a McLaren title and then let's see who wins it within the team.

Norris could now also entertain the idea of being super aggressive against VER. Piastri may close the gap but if I was NOR I'd be fine taking it to Abu Dhabi close to level on points with Piastri.
Yeah I know and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he does win at least now of them.Just I think its still pretty safe.

Lando has been driving very we'll I don't see him losing it from here.
Darth-Piekus wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 14:04
Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:54
I think the FIA are dodgy in the name of a spectacle when and if they chose to clamp down on rules being dodged just don't think this is one of them.
If only the FIA were just as black and white in every situation where rules were clearly breached now we wouldn't have conspiracy theories.
Stop feeling the nonsense. Conspiracy theorists with find a conspiracy out of nothing with no proof. McLaren just stuffed up end of story plenty of cars were checked only McLaren failed. Thet'll learn their lesson and as I said above I wouldn't br surprised if Lando won one of the final races Hes been in solid form of late

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Ben1980 wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 14:37
The heating up skid block thing. Isn't that the skid blocks were heated to stop wear on the plank. But this is a DQ because of wear on the skid blocks themselves. Not sure that all tallies up.
I think some of was speculation from the Fia docs too when the FIA rechecked in front of the McLaren engineers even more wear was detected from when they were first checked. probably putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 kinda thinking but cooled down more, more shrinkage.

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Shader wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 09:51
So RedBull decided to win the championship behind a table.... not surprised.
Such comments only drive neutral fans towards the Verstappen camp. =D>

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Watto wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 13:50
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23 Nov 2025, 13:35
sorry... they should check all the cars not just few random cars... It seems repeating of 2021 Abu Dhabi in 2025. They are trying to make sport interesting with some manipulation. something will happen in next race to make more interesting artificially..... I don't even surprise by end of next race Max = Noris in Point..... We will see..... in 7 days...
To check every car for every single compliance would take far too long especially back to back races go through al the things that can be and are checked. Max's car was checked for the plank ware and it seems the top 10 all where only the 2 McLarens failed the test.


Yeah 2020 AD was dodgy but this is a clear breach and solely on McLaren
I agree. But perhaps it could be that if 1 or more cars are DSQ for something like plank wear or skid block wear etc, then they should check that specific thing on all cars.
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Stop with the conspiracy theories and actually sign up for masterclass course @ Ferrari how to do proper LiCo management :lol:

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venkyhere wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:21
Hopefully this thread retains sanity, 24 points is still a big gap going into the last two races.
My bad. I should have known better.
Hoping that atleast by thursday/Friday before next weekend, this team thread comes back to normal.
Right now there is too much copium/UFO-spotting/venting going on.

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venkyhere wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 15:31
venkyhere wrote:
23 Nov 2025, 11:21
Hopefully this thread retains sanity, 24 points is still a big gap going into the last two races.
My bad. I should have known better.
Hoping that atleast by thursday/Friday before next weekend, this team thread comes back to normal.
Right now there is too much copium/UFO-spotting/venting going on.
A lot of people are pissed off at the outcome and are trying to justify it with whatever means floats their boats. The gist of the matter is that they f*cked up and ran the car too low. Whether they were picked at random or there's some great conspiracy targeting McLaren doesn't really make a difference.
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