2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Lando's strange slowdown, could he have been deliberately saving the soft tyres for tomorrow?

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Crash is the only thing Max can't also do. Crashing with either of them will get him out of the title.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:11
Great result for both drivers. Good job.

Such a shame Russell couldn't pip Verstappen to P3 so he doesn't start alongside our guys, but that's life. Let's beat him tomorrow and take this title to McLaren.
Amen to that, we just need a clean start and a clean first few laps, then control the race from there..... Priority No1 should be to kick VER out of the competition, we cannot allow the risk to win or lose all in AbuDabi
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Badger wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:23
Emag wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:13
I have seen the script. Lando and Max crash tomorrow at the start, Oscar wins. Then it will be settled in Abu Dhabi with Oscar as the championship leader.
Crash is the only thing Lando can't do. If he crashes with either one then the other guy is going to win the race and tie him on points for the final round. For Lando it's zero risk, for the others they can risk everything because they need to beat him.
Norris is the only one that can crash or have a DNF.
He has got a joker here. But on this track I don’t expect that kind of thing to happen so I think we will have a boring race with the same classification than qualy.

And then NOR champion in the last race

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Piastri is back !!!
unfortunately , too late.

Norris just needs to 'not lose position' at the start and bring the car home in P2 tomorrow. Then in AbuDhabi he just needs to finish P4. With that car, he can sleepwalk to P4 in AbuDhabi.

Congrats to LandoNorris, world champion of 2025 =D> =D>

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:39
Piastri is back !!!
unfortunately , too late.

Norris just needs to 'not lose position' at the start and bring the car home in P2 tomorrow. Then in AbuDhabi he just needs to finish P4. With that car, he can sleepwalk to P4 in AbuDhabi.

Congrats to LandoNorris, world champion of 2025 =D> =D>
Piastri never went, he just doesn't like certain tracks. But, he flaming well loves Qatar.

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:39
Piastri is back !!!
unfortunately , too late.

Norris just needs to 'not lose position' at the start and bring the car home in P2 tomorrow. Then in AbuDhabi he just needs to finish P4. With that car, he can sleepwalk to P4 in AbuDhabi.

Congrats to LandoNorris, world champion of 2025 =D> =D>
His pace is track specific, 3rd season in a row,but I dont care, as long as someone from Mclaren is champ, I really do not have preference, I just want to see Mclaren driver on top after 17 years since Hamilton in 2008.
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Norris slowed down after he aborted his final run because he did not have enough fuel. Car was surely fueled for one hot lap.

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Jambier wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:32
Badger wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:23
Emag wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:13
I have seen the script. Lando and Max crash tomorrow at the start, Oscar wins. Then it will be settled in Abu Dhabi with Oscar as the championship leader.
Crash is the only thing Lando can't do. If he crashes with either one then the other guy is going to win the race and tie him on points for the final round. For Lando it's zero risk, for the others they can risk everything because they need to beat him.
Norris is the only one that can crash or have a DNF.
He has got a joker here. But on this track I don’t expect that kind of thing to happen so I think we will have a boring race with the same classification than qualy.

And then NOR champion in the last race
Mathematically yes, but not in terms of risk reward. If Lando crashes he goes from being the massive favourite to being in a dead heat with one of Oscar and Max going into AD. That would be disastrous considering he doesn't even need to beat either of them to retain the big favourite status going into AD, finishing P3 would be more than enough. For Oscar and Max they are very unlikely to win the title as things stand, and they need to beat Lando to have any chance, so they will be willing to take risks. Finishing behind Lando is useless for them. Traditionally in a 1 v 1 title fight Lando could crash with his challenger and benefit, but not when he has two drivers chasing him.

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Max really needs to win this to have a good chance for WDC. Finishing P2 and reducing gap to Norris is not enough as it would pull Piastri ahead as well. This will mean that VER will likely be super aggressive, especially if he overtakes Norris.

Interesting calculation but most likely we will see a repeat of the sprint with early pressure from Verstappen.

McLaren will have a challenge with undercuts, if Norris is behind Piastri he will have lower priority at pitstops which might mean he loses out to Verstappen.

Let's hope the race pace is strong.

Why does it have to be complicated, without the DSQ we could start celebrating.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:29
Crash is the only thing Max can't also do. Crashing with either of them will get him out of the title.
He will try to do something bad 100%.

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If Max is not aggressive tomorrow then we probably moved to a parallel universe somewhere between Vegas and now. Max can't even race Lando properly when he is 60 points ahead, there's no way he doesn't go full attack when he is 20 behind. I really hate how Sky pushed the "friendship" narrative between them too. I have no idea what their relation off-track is, but on-track they are anything but friends. The only time Max has "played cleanly" with Lando has been when there was nothing on the line. Recent Max comments seem to have pulled a nerve too, since Lando lashed back at Max/RedBull for "sh*tstiring". Anyway, the point is, it seem like they particularly don't want to finish behind one-another in a race at all costs.

Going back to Sky. The commentary is hard to listen to at the moment to be honest. I understand the British bias has to be there, being a British media platform, but they seem to be hyper focused on how Lando can win the title all the time. Also, those tongue-in-cheek comments about RedBull supposedly sparking a little bit too much during qualifying. Like Crofty please, it's a Formula 1 car in a high-speed circuit. It will always spark.

A bit petty I would say. McLaren made a mistake and they were off the legal limits for plank wear at Vegas. End of story, no need to drag it on. It's not like RedBull scraped off McLaren's plank with a chisel.
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Avocado wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 22:49
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:29
Crash is the only thing Max can't also do. Crashing with either of them will get him out of the title.
He will try to do something bad 100%.
Then he's going to crash himself out as he is from the outside. But in all seriousness. If both Mclaren boys do a good start there is no way Max is passing either of them and then all they can do is play the DRS game to help themselves away from Max.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 23:32
Avocado wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 22:49
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Nov 2025, 21:29
Crash is the only thing Max can't also do. Crashing with either of them will get him out of the title.
He will try to do something bad 100%.
Then he's going to crash himself out as he is from the outside. But in all seriousness. If both Mclaren boys do a good start there is no way Max is passing either of them and then all they can do is play the DRS game to help themselves away from Max.
If PIA goes to the right to cover NOR on the start he is risking to allow VER to overtook them both with a late braking maneuver from the outside into turn 1, he safest way is to repeat what he did today on the sprint every other scenario puts him in a worse position to VER than to NOR.
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Both drivers should focus on making a perfect start, cover Verstappen and they have nothing to afraid off.
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