2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Badger wrote:
06 Dec 2025, 17:14
Max being Max, he's a monster in high pressure situations. I wonder about the tow here though, it really doesn't gain you that much unless executed perfectly. Max was quicker in S2 on his second lap without it.

Yuki botched his lap with track limits, it wouldn't have put him very high though.
Which could have made McL's life more difficult if he was up at the front.

Effectively VER is in contention for WDC all on is his own which makes it more impressive.

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Wasn't this the result of that new engine, that they didn't use in Qatar? I would have expected him to be quicker on the straights and that's where he had the advantage.

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AriaanGert wrote:
06 Dec 2025, 17:25
Wasn't this the result of that new engine, that they didn't use in Qatar? I would have expected him to be quicker on the straights and that's where I had the advantage.
Lol no. He was also quick in S3. How do people still think new engines give much more power in big 2025?
Call a spade, a spade.

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Max with fresh engine and good top speed. I have a feeling that if he leads after the first corner we might see a 20 car DRS train for a while to get Lando in trouble, lol.

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In the end S3 deficit was only half a tenth. Decent effort from Max.

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Oscar at T1 is in an interesting spot. He needs a win and for Lando to fall to 6th. It is in his interest to be aggressive against Lando.

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FNTC wrote:
06 Dec 2025, 17:27
Max with fresh engine and good top speed. I have a feeling that if he leads after the first corner we might see a 20 car DRS train for a while to get Lando in trouble, lol.
His set-up is quite optimal for high levels of strategic f*ckery :lol: Gonna be very hard to pass unless the tyres fall off completely.

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MYsee wrote:
06 Dec 2025, 17:37
Oscar at T1 is in an interesting spot. He needs a win and for Lando to fall to 6th. It is in his interest to be aggressive against Lando.
He probably gets told today to follow "Papaya Rules".
Call a spade, a spade.

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Oscar WDC race is over, he will likely play second fiddle to make sure Lando finish on podium tomorrow because Oscar cant win the WDC if Max is leading the race.
And one driver that can spoil Lando race will perhaps be Russell

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CHT wrote:
06 Dec 2025, 17:48
Oscar WDC race is over, he will likely play second fiddle to make sure Lando finish on podium tomorrow because Oscar cant win the WDC if Max is leading the race.
And one driver that can spoil Lando race will perhaps be Russell
Russell botched his laps to be a factor. Going to need a miracle. Nothing changes in that regard.
Call a spade, a spade.

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The very few times you want George up there he bottles it (already happened last week)...
But of course he won his two races right in front of Max :roll: :D

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Benson has a weekend he will never forget. I hope we will have a GP tomorrow we will never forget. :mrgreen:

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venkyhere wrote:
05 Dec 2025, 16:45
From the data, Norris was in lower engine mode than Max in FP2, and still faster by 4 tenths in Q and around 5-6 tenths in R simulations. RB21 also showing much bigger 'deg' than the McL39. In the real Q and R, I think this gap is going to be 5 tenths and 8-9 tenths, respectively. The difference in the off camber corners of Sector3 is almost comical. I think this is too much a gap for Redbull to bridge. I can't see beyond a pole to flags victory for Norris this weekend. The advantage over the 'next best' car on this track, is even bigger than it was in 2024. Norris will win his 1st WDC with a cool P1 with some 30s margin over P2.
Piastri looks lost.
How wrong I was about S3 !!!
Max was only a few hundreths slower than both Mclarens in S3. It can only be one/both of two things :
- Max was hiding pace (as much as 4 tenths) in S3 throughout the weekend, until Q3 (he did show a sub 30s in the second Q2 run, but 29.6 in Q3 is an insane sector time, gaining 0.55 w.r.t FP2)
- Redbull actually fixed the understeer overnight.

For all the talk of Vmax, the 'tow' that Max got, what the lap traces (F1insightshub.com) show, is that his Vmax gain was 2kph only. The Mclarens were nearly equal in top speed to the Redbull, Where Max 'gained' his S2 time, it was in the slow corners T5 and the T6-7 chicane.

For all the 'it's close in quali' talk, and the fact that both Mclarens didn't make a mistake and drove optimally, the pole lap was 2 tenths faster. This is not a man, it's a machine.

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Max has done what he needed to do. All he can do now is invite Norris to make a mistake, and hope to get lucky. Odds are still heavily in favour of Lando but stranger things have happened.

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venkyhere wrote:
05 Dec 2025, 16:45
For all the talk of Vmax, the 'tow' that Max got, what the lap traces (F1insightshub.com) show, is that his Vmax gain was 2kph only. The Mclarens were nearly equal in top speed to the Redbull, Where Max 'gained' his S2 time, it was in the slow corners T5 and the T6-7 chicane.
To be honest that tow was very weak, it's like Yuki did the bare minimum there. He was simply too far out; he should be much closer coming out of the chicane to have made a sizeable difference. Would have been better off doing 2 qualy laps.

Its good Max ended up improving on the 2nd run, otherwise too many people would have attribute the lap to the 'tow'.