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Just watched Ted's Notebook. I find it hard how anyone can genuinely not like Lando. He seems like such a lovely guy.
He acts like an entitled dick.
Hes a rich daddy's boy.
He had been at McLaren for almost a decade and pretty much achieved nothing in the sport to have the kind of status he had.
He has an inexplicable hatred towards Lewis Hamilton, who has quite a large following.
That hatred led to him saying bollocks about having the best car means you should win everything so winning when you do have the best car is something he doesnt care about, when he has not won everything when hes had the best car.
Telling Lewis off for complimenting him for being faster in a race he won (?????).
Shitty entitled interview attitudes as though people shouldn't ask him about things that make him feel uncomfortable despite it being part of the job.
Kissing Maxs ass when he races other drivers excessively hard, then crying on TV about it when he gets his turn.
Winning a WDC where a large amount of people dont really understand why his team mate who was dominating in the first half suddenly forgot how to go fast until the point where he could no longer win the WDC and then got fast again for the last couple of races. Or the fact that a large amount of people feel he had to be favoured by the team to get to the stage where he could win win the fastest car on the grid and then still only barely managed to do it, putting him in Damn Hill WDC territory.
Y'know, stuff like that, probably.
Everybody is capable of being lovely when all the cards fall in their favour. Its how they behave when they've just had a gut punch that shows their true character.
Lando has pretty much acted like a spoiled ass before he ever even had to face any real adversity, and has crumbled the few times he really had to.
Hes a WDC and nobody can take that away from him, but hes got a lot more to prove hes deserving. Doubt he cares though. Which is also kinda part of the problem in how anyone might see him as a person.
OMG i'm still processing this championship, I've been Mclaren fan since 1997, and the last 17 years since Hamiltons 2008 were hard, especially 2012, Hamilton's ''betrayal;'' with his move to Mercedes, the Honda disaster, the Reno reset, the Bahrain epic preseason failure, from bottom last at the start of 2023 to the double crown by the end of 2025, wow.... Hollywood movie scenario this was,......
Now that NOR has a titile under his belt, I believe he will become even better, his weakest point so far has been his mental game, so I believe this title will now help him grow even futher, and if Mclaren builds him a competitive car, he will be trouble for the rest on the grid.
For Oscar, this season has been a learning curve, similar to Noris last year when he fought Verstapen for the title, even though he was never really in it.... What Oscar must do is over come his slum in performance in the last 3rd of the season, looking back at this season,
and the past two, his curve of performance over the season is almost identical, if he can be consistent all year round, he will be very tough to beat.
Cudos to ZAK, who back in 2017/18 said we aim to win in 2025 and OMG it happend, last year with the consturctors, this year with the double crown. Cudos to Andrea and the rest of the team, this is something special, and me as a fan of this team for 28 years now, I just feel pride to be a witness ... what a ride it was....
We will win again ''Ron Denis'' Mclaren above all!
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Congratulations to both Lando and McLaren… What a season!
Both Titles and a history making year…
I guess at least the debate on whether Lando is championship material or not can be binned now
Looking forward to 2026… Let’s hope they keep the momentum going
What was said is that he won't ever be a great champion like some of the recent multiple WDCs. As someone else mentioned, he is a Jenson Button style driver. Very talented but not in the mix with the big boys. Maybe that will change, we will see.
He's had a good season though and he deserves it, but he sure as hell made it very difficult for himself at the start with a lack of adaptation, hitting Oscar and also the wall. Once the car was adapted for him, he really started to do well.
Congratulations to both Lando and McLaren… What a season!
Both Titles and a history making year…
I guess at least the debate on whether Lando is championship material or not can be binned now
Looking forward to 2026… Let’s hope they keep the momentum going
What was said is that he won't ever be a great champion like some of the recent multiple WDCs. As someone else mentioned, he is a Jenson Button style driver. Very talented but not in the mix with the big boys. Maybe that will change, we will see.
He's had a good season though and he deserves it, but he sure as hell made it very difficult for himself at the start with a lack of adaptation, hitting Oscar and also the wall. Once the car was adapted for him, he really started to do well.
Terrible comparison, they are nothing alike at all! Button never showed the raw pace that Norris shows at times. Button excelled during difficult circumstances, could read a race, probably Sainz is a similar type of racer.
Congratulations to both Lando and McLaren… What a season!
Both Titles and a history making year…
I guess at least the debate on whether Lando is championship material or not can be binned now
Looking forward to 2026… Let’s hope they keep the momentum going
What was said is that he won't ever be a great champion like some of the recent multiple WDCs. As someone else mentioned, he is a Jenson Button style driver. Very talented but not in the mix with the big boys. Maybe that will change, we will see.
He's had a good season though and he deserves it, but he sure as hell made it very difficult for himself at the start with a lack of adaptation, hitting Oscar and also the wall. Once the car was adapted for him, he really started to do well.
Terrible comparison, they are nothing alike at all! Button never showed the raw pace that Norris shows at times. Button excelled during difficult circumstances, could read a race, probably Sainz is a similar type of racer.
It wasn't a comparison of driving styles, it was a comparison of stature.
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Congrats to Norris. What a podium that was. Heartwrenching for everyone I'm sure, with ALL the top 3 WDC contenders present, but I still got a sense of the mutual respect each one has for the other. They shared a long season in competition with one another, wherein each of the three had their own time in the limelight as being a possible drivers' champion. Each knowing that victory could be within reach, at different points in the season. Verstappen being considerable at all this season is perhaps the most heroic effort, putting the RB21 where it oughtn't be, many times over; but with Piastri also supplying his own share of heroic moments as the kid on those three steps. All three on the podium, reflective of the consistency of these two teams, those two power unit suppliers, and these three drivers. Lando stuck with it and recovered from early season missteps. This race was like his latter half season. He stayed consistent and delivered to his team what his team delivered to him: good odds. We venture forth in to the 2026 season, into further unknowns.
I really take issue with people saying Leclerc and Russell are much better drivers than Norris (or Piastri).
Leclerc did have his share of mistakes (and bottles) over the years. Same applies to Russell (this weekend qualifying is a great example).
Neither of them was in a true high pressure championship fight (for two years in a row).
In 4 Ferrari years, Leclerc was not dominant against Sainz (at least points wise). Lando was beaten by Sainz in Lando's rookie season and was matching him in his second season (then Sainz moved to Ferrari). Russell is a similar story, he did well against Hamilton but as we can see, it's possible Hamilton is well past his peak (at least in these types of cars).
And if you start to cherry pick then you can easily take Lando destroying Ricciardo as proof Lando is a top tier driver.
To me, it's clear that Max has the edge at the moment but the rest of the field (Lando, Oscar, George, Charles) are all on a similar level with perhaps some areas where one driver is stronger than the other. Leclerc is the best qualifier, Lando best tire whisperer, Oscar maybe best overtakes and George best hair .
Just watched Ted's Notebook. I find it hard how anyone can genuinely not like Lando. He seems like such a lovely guy.
He acts like an entitled dick.
Hes a rich daddy's boy.
He had been at McLaren for almost a decade and pretty much achieved nothing in the sport to have the kind of status he had.
He has an inexplicable hatred towards Lewis Hamilton, who has quite a large following.
That hatred led to him saying bollocks about having the best car means you should win everything so winning when you do have the best car is something he doesnt care about, when he has not won everything when hes had the best car.
Telling Lewis off for complimenting him for being faster in a race he won (?????).
Shitty entitled interview attitudes as though people shouldn't ask him about things that make him feel uncomfortable despite it being part of the job.
Kissing Maxs ass when he races other drivers excessively hard, then crying on TV about it when he gets his turn.
Winning a WDC where a large amount of people dont really understand why his team mate who was dominating in the first half suddenly forgot how to go fast until the point where he could no longer win the WDC and then got fast again for the last couple of races. Or the fact that a large amount of people feel he had to be favoured by the team to get to the stage where he could win win the fastest car on the grid and then still only barely managed to do it, putting him in Damn Hill WDC territory.
Y'know, stuff like that, probably.
Everybody is capable of being lovely when all the cards fall in their favour. Its how they behave when they've just had a gut punch that shows their true character.
Lando has pretty much acted like a spoiled ass before he ever even had to face any real adversity, and has crumbled the few times he really had to.
Hes a WDC and nobody can take that away from him, but hes got a lot more to prove hes deserving. Doubt he cares though. Which is also kinda part of the problem in how anyone might see him as a person.
Exactly so. Lando has acted like an entitled brat from day one. Stepped out of Max's way when he should have fought. Got arsey about his team mates performing well. Accused Hamilton of only winning when apparently had only his team mate to beat (something Lando almost failed to do), etc..
Silver spoon entitlement 101.
I'm no Max fan but I'd have doffed my cap to him had he took the title today. Raced alone against a better car and took it to the last race.
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If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.
A very nice post of Lando explaining the challenges he had after Zandvoort DNF and how he needed to adapt, to learn more and quicker and to do all he was in his capabilities to won the title. From the couch in the comfort of our homes is easy to say things but the hard work in the and paid off.
tough day?
