2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Sieper]

It's sad that it'll go down in the history as the same fate as SV, who could only win in a Newey designed car.

He won 8 races this year, proving that even without a Newey-designed car, he can win the most races in a season. Vettel was beaten by Leclerc with the same machinery—who will do that to Verstappen? No one.

so, in the first 15 races he won 2 GP, (why only 2, when he is such a god-like driver?)
after that in Monza, Red Bull introduced a significant floor upgrade for Max Verstappen,
surprise surprise in the remaining 9 races he won 6 GP...
without this new floor he would end up with like 4-5 win in the season.
so:
- new floor (close gap to Mclaren or even quicker that Mclaren)
- Mclaren stop developing car in May/June
- Mclarens papaya rules
- two equal drivers racing for Mclaren (takig points from each other)

come on. max is quick but not like god-like quick.
get real

Can you use the word “god” more often. A “master” class in trolling from an account that hardly posts. Too bad you posted this.

[Xaniesta]

It will be interesting to see how compromised the 2026 car will be given that they completeley focused on this season developement to give max a chance to win the title.

Plus all the noise that the engine programe isnt delivering as expected...

Everyone said the 2022 car would be massively compromised after the 2021 season….

And everyone said Mercedes will be again the best team, but it happened opposite.

[AR3-GP]

I don't remember the rumors that Mercedes would have the best chassis. All I remember is people looking at this unusual looking car, and jumping to conclusions. Imo aerodynamics can be more of a dark art than a PU. So I do believe the Mercedes PU rumors. Unlike the chassis where they can only test with windtunnel models and simulations, they are permitted to test the real PU. The correlation is 1:1. Teams know where they stand already.

[Xaniesta]

I don't remember the rumors that Mercedes would have the best chassis. All I remember is people looking at this unusual looking car, and jumping to conclusions. Imo aerodynamics can be more of a dark art than a PU. So I do believe the Mercedes PU rumors. Unlike the chassis where they can only test with windtunnel models and simulations, they are permitted to test the real PU. The correlation is 1:1. Teams know where they stand already.

I meant in 2021., not after the cars were revealed.

[Wouter]

so, in the first 15 races he won 2 GP, (why only 2, when he is such a god-like driver?

come on. max is quick but not like god-like quick.
get real

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Can you use the word “god” more often. A “master” class in trolling from an account that hardly posts. Too bad you posted this.

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Don't bother to reply to someone who started with that question. Every F1 follower knows the answer to that.
Lando is the WC and everybody with F1 knowledge agreed Max is the driver of the year.

[f1isgood]

I don't remember the rumors that Mercedes would have the best chassis. All I remember is people looking at this unusual looking car, and jumping to conclusions. Imo aerodynamics can be more of a dark art than a PU. So I do believe the Mercedes PU rumors. Unlike the chassis where they can only test with windtunnel models and simulations, they are permitted to test the real PU. The correlation is 1:1. Teams know where they stand already.

Mercedes themselves ran the narrative during 2021 about how they'd shifted all focus to 2022 and all and how they'd be strong. Added to this there were heavy rumors about their design even before the zero pods was finally unveiled in testing.

They made a dud and still haven't understood anything these regulations apart from some basics they could copy from other teams.

I will wait till testing to see how far ahead Mercedes are if at all. They lost half their factory to Red Bull. But the advantage they have is they can pull up resources from elsewhere like say their trucking division etc.

So we'll see.

[Watto]

It will be interesting to see how compromised the 2026 car will be given that they completeley focused on this season developement to give max a chance to win the title.

Plus all the noise that the engine programe isnt delivering as expected...

Everyone said the 2022 car would be massively compromised after the 2021 season….

I think Red Bull almost had to continue developing this years car even if it wasn't really expecting the WDC they had clear correlation issues between CFD and wind tunnel and what appeared on the track so I think they had to get on too of that. So think It was needed a lot to just better understand where the 2026 development was going

[AR3-GP]

It's positive that the mexico floor worked in the end. It's an important validation of tools. The missed free practice in Mexico, and the sprint format in Brazil made it difficult to understand how to use the update.

[genarro]

It will be interesting to see how compromised the 2026 car will be given that they completeley focused on this season developement to give max a chance to win the title.

Plus all the noise that the engine programe isnt delivering as expected...

Everyone said the 2022 car would be massively compromised after the 2021 season….

I think Red Bull almost had to continue developing this years car even if it wasn't really expecting the WDC they had clear correlation issues between CFD and wind tunnel and what appeared on the track so I think they had to get on too of that. So think It was needed a lot to just better understand where the 2026 development was going

And like i said, this took a lot of time not just financialy (that probably isnt even the biggest problem) but resources in time. time that other teams probably invested in developement the 2026 cars. Plus the 2021 car was developed by Newey and other high ranking engineers that left since then. Plus all the politics and power struggles inside the team takes a toll. if RB didnt haveMax, its P11 and P13 with this current car.

[f1isgood]

It's positive that the mexico floor worked in the end. It's an important validation of tools. The missed free practice in Mexico, and the sprint format in Brazil made it difficult to understand how to use the update.

Probably the best win of Red Bull this year on pace alone? Understandably, hard to compare with the McLaren's but looks Max had enough pace to keep it all covered.

Sprint weekends were a complete pain this regulation cycle. Only year where it wasn't was 2023 and even then it's Understandable why that was the case.

[Wouter]

so, in the first 15 races he won 2 GP, (why only 2, when he is such a god-like driver?

come on. max is quick but not like god-like quick.
get real

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Can you use the word “god” more often. A “master” class in trolling from an account that hardly posts. Too bad you posted this.

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Don't bother to reply to someone who started with that question. Every F1 follower knows the answer to that.
Lando is the WC and everybody with F1 knowledge agreed Max is the driver of the year.

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[dren]

Teams know where they stand already.

I don't buy into that. I expect the ICE output are all in small % of each other power wise. The PU controls and driver requirements are going to make a large difference next year. That on top of whatever the right direction will be for the aero development.

[Badger]

The reshuffling at Red Bull over the past few years really hasn’t looked great from the outside. Ever since Mateschitz passed away, it feels like a power vacuum opened up, leading to an internal struggle with no clear winners. Somehow similar to what happened with McLaren towards the end of the Ron Dennis era. It’s hard to know what the new upper management actually wants for Red Bull Racing, but I do hope this team doesn’t slide into becoming just a flashy marketing project. Although to be fair, their recent investments do suggest they still intend to stay competitive.

Is it hard to know? Horner was kept on through all kinds of drama, only when the team became uncompetitive was he axed. That should tell you what the leadership is about. With Horner and Marko gone the power vacuum is gone too. From my perspective the team has more clarity than it has had in a long time, and the vibes seem quite good really. It's a new era trying to bring their own PU and chassi to the front of the grid. I think Max likes where he is at privately and professionally, being onboard with Marko leaving is a sign that he believes in the new leadership. He will pursue this project until the end of his contract and then reevaluate. Only a disaster engine would make him consider jumping ship, but there's no sign of that atm.

[nitrotech]

After having been part of an ugly power struggle that shook Red Bull, Marko is leaving.

[Wouter]

After having been part of an ugly power struggle that shook Red Bull, Marko is leaving.

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1998397615608672690

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