2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[edu2703]

According to Autoracer, 3 teams actively want Leclerc for a potential move. (That they know of) One is AM which is public knowledge, Duchessa hinted another is RBR, not sure what the third might be

Edit: Want to be clear about the Hamilton part of this article because it's being spread on X. The reason why Leclerc has "options" but Hamilton doesn't is because Hamilton doesn't have an exit clause like Leclerc does.

I can only imagine the third team being Audi. Hulkenberg might retire soon, Leclerc would be an excellent choice to lead a long-term project for the team, and they have the money to hire him. It would be funny to see Leclerc working with Mattia Binotto again.

Cadillac is very unlikely, as a new team shouldn't be able to afford to pay a high salary to a A-tier driver in his first years. Regarding Mercedes and McLaren, I think it's very difficult for Mercedes to get rid of Russell, and even less so Antonelli, in the near future. McLaren only if Piastri gets tired of the team and decides to leave. Williams, Haas, and Alpine are out of the question.

[dren]

It's obvious Charles is tired of losing in a Ferrari and that he'd rather go lose in an Alpine.

[Macklaren]

Man I dunno how to tell you this but...Russell (or anyone else for that matter) is getting a boot if Max becomes available. Now, I suspect Mercedes wants to see 2026 showdown between Russell and Antonelli, if Russell beats him in similar fashion and Max is available I expect Russell/Max pairing in Mercedes. If Antonelli so much as comes close to Russell, I think Russell is going to have to search for a seat if Max becomes available (he will be more expensive, harsher as a team player to Max and older then Antonelli)

RUS+LEC at Newey's AMR in 2027 would be quite a nice combo I think. Both very fast qualifiers and I can see them getting along quite well

[dren]

Yeah, I don't think Stroll's seat is ever being vacated.

[deadhead]

The Hamilton effect?

https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/ferrari ... ce-AI6Vq2K

Or was that just for one day at signing?

[leblanc]

The Hamilton effect?

https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/ferrari ... ce-AI6Vq2K

Or was that just for one day at signing?

slow economic outlook effect

[PlatinumZealot]

If Ferrari are on their way to losing Charles by an under-performing car in 2026, the LH44 team would do well to assert themselves in the paddock and on the track. That means when Charles goes Lewis would be the de-facto leader. Ferrari might try something to get Max Verstappen in the seat, that's what any sensible team would do, but would Max come over? I would love to see that! unfortunately I feel Lewis would be super old by then and get totally dominated like no tomorrow. lol Fanciful thoughts aside, I am also a fan of Charles and would be disappointed to see him leave Ferrari without a championship.

[PlatinumZealot]

The Hamilton effect?

https://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/ferrari ... ce-AI6Vq2K

Or was that just for one day at signing?

Hmm. Very intriguing if true that the driver is affecting share prices.

[Badger]

Arrivabene on Hamilton.

However, Arrivabene – who spent four years as Ferrari team principal between 2015 and 2018 – believes Hamilton has fallen into the same trap as Vettel by trying to broaden his influence.

He told Sky Italy: “Sebastian Vettel also sent such dossiers. He wrote, spoke and shared everything.”

On the value of Vettel’s documents to the team, he added: “Almost useless.

“I don’t want to say anything bad about Sebastian, but everyone should mind their own business.

“When a driver starts playing engineer, that’s it. Then it’s really over.

“Drivers spend two or three days in the simulator and get a general impression, but the devil is in the details.

“When the car is on the track, the driver must provide relevant feedback so that the engineers can make targeted improvements – especially when there is potential.”

Arrivabene famously rebuked Vettel towards the end of Ferrari’s winless 2016 season, publicly reminding the four-time world champion to focus on his own job.

He said at the time: “Sebastian just needs to focus on the car.

“He is a person who gives so much and this means he is interested in a bit of everything, so sometimes you have to re-focus him, remind him to be focused on the main job.”

Pretty much exactly how I feel about the situation and the role of the driver in development. Focus on car feedback but don't stray into engineering, and for the love of god, don't send dossiers.

[ScuderiaLeo]

Small updates from Duchessa

Hamilton gave everyone on the team a personal Christmas gift

Leclerc is in the sim today. I believe he'll be in Maranello for a few days (based on what he said before the break)

[Mosin123]

Arrivabene on Hamilton.

However, Arrivabene – who spent four years as Ferrari team principal between 2015 and 2018 – believes Hamilton has fallen into the same trap as Vettel by trying to broaden his influence.

He told Sky Italy: “Sebastian Vettel also sent such dossiers. He wrote, spoke and shared everything.”

On the value of Vettel’s documents to the team, he added: “Almost useless.

“I don’t want to say anything bad about Sebastian, but everyone should mind their own business.

“When a driver starts playing engineer, that’s it. Then it’s really over.

“Drivers spend two or three days in the simulator and get a general impression, but the devil is in the details.

“When the car is on the track, the driver must provide relevant feedback so that the engineers can make targeted improvements – especially when there is potential.”

Arrivabene famously rebuked Vettel towards the end of Ferrari’s winless 2016 season, publicly reminding the four-time world champion to focus on his own job.

He said at the time: “Sebastian just needs to focus on the car.

“He is a person who gives so much and this means he is interested in a bit of everything, so sometimes you have to re-focus him, remind him to be focused on the main job.”

Pretty much exactly how I feel about the situation and the role of the driver in development. Focus on car feedback but don't stray into engineering, and for the love of god, don't send dossiers.

Lewis has done this since for ever, He did it during his time at Mercedes and towards the end of his Mclaren days.

Ofc if its pointless, Maybe Lewis can show the results in his trophy cupboard. Maybe it was the small details in Lewis notes that kept Mercedes a head of the Ferrari in the end during Arrivabene time at Ferrari ahh? If only they paid attention to Vettel...

AM was phrasing Vettel highly for his contribution from his " notes " the season after he retired, even gave him credit for the performance of the car, specifically mentioning his development work... Amazing.. Maybe Ferrari should have listened? Ofc, being so stubborn they cant bring them selfs to such low standards...

[SiLo]

People thinking Lewis is "playing engineer" need to get their heads checked. The media will be lapping up these stories and then curating questions to other people in the paddock to get more clickbait headlines.

I bet Seb and Lewis are writing these documents because they could see the way that Red Bull and Mercedes were working, and why it was helping them win titles. I don't think they were/are writing dossiers on specifically what engineering changes to make.

Ultimately as has been the case for years, drivers at Ferrari are simply not that important in their eyes.

[Tiny73]

I made this exact point earlier in the thread. Everyone is quick to jump on Lewis suggesting that he’s telling the engineers how to do their job but in reality it’s more likely to be operational suggestions, how departments interface, how prep for a weekend should look like, bringing process and rigour.

The narrative that he’s telling g engineers how to do their job is a lazy trope for his detractors to bash him with.

[erikejw]

If this is how they use driver feedback I have zero hope that Ferrari will ever be on top again.

Of course the drivers dont design the cars but they know what they need from them.

If the aeroteam are to proud to listen to drivers, aeroteam or mechanical designs and vice versa they will never be able to deliver a complete package.

Arrivabenes mocking of Sebastian and almost blame him for the teams results is sad.

Is this the Italian blame and politics culture?

I know there are many talented engineers in the Ferrari team, I guess most of them are run over by politics.

I remember Marchionne made changes so everyone's ideas was heard. I guess that culture went away again.



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Arrivabene on Hamilton.

However, Arrivabene – who spent four years as Ferrari team principal between 2015 and 2018 – believes Hamilton has fallen into the same trap as Vettel by trying to broaden his influence.

He told Sky Italy: “Sebastian Vettel also sent such dossiers. He wrote, spoke and shared everything.”

On the value of Vettel’s documents to the team, he added: “Almost useless.

“I don’t want to say anything bad about Sebastian, but everyone should mind their own business.

“When a driver starts playing engineer, that’s it. Then it’s really over.

“Drivers spend two or three days in the simulator and get a general impression, but the devil is in the details.

“When the car is on the track, the driver must provide relevant feedback so that the engineers can make targeted improvements – especially when there is potential.”

Arrivabene famously rebuked Vettel towards the end of Ferrari’s winless 2016 season, publicly reminding the four-time world champion to focus on his own job.

He said at the time: “Sebastian just needs to focus on the car.

“He is a person who gives so much and this means he is interested in a bit of everything, so sometimes you have to re-focus him, remind him to be focused on the main job.”

Pretty much exactly how I feel about the situation and the role of the driver in development. Focus on car feedback but don't stray into engineering, and for the love of god, don't send dossiers.
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[Badger]

Tell it to Arrivabene, he's not mincing words. But I'm sure he knows nothing about Ferrari, no connections there at all.

Lewis is part of the problem. He sends documents to the team and then tells the world about it. Why? If this is genuinely about improving the team why is he throwing them under the bus in the media? Should the team start holding press conferences about why Hamilton is slower than Charles? Keep it internal, keep it professional. He's not being paid to make the team look bad or to try and change the team against its will, he's paid to drive well and be an ambassador for the brand. In the words of John Elkann, "focus less on talking and more on driving".