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Badger wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 23:44
Vappy wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 23:33
AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 22:25
Active aero engagement, front wing only. The center part of the 2nd and 3rd element is stationary.

https://i.postimg.cc/NfMGzf3D/Active-front-wing.gif
Really interesting to see the visual change in outwash at the bargeboard area once the front wing lowers. Thanks for posting
Looks like it increases, no? The upwash on the "inwash" strakes suddenly go more out than up.

I was speculating about this yesterday.
Maybe it stalls out the floor suction?

If the front of the car comes up due to less aero load, the wedge shape of the floor relative to the ground lessens and the floor is no longer trying to luck air around it underneath as hard as before.

If the front wing being up was able to starve the front of the floor of airflow on the underside, that would also make the suction below the floor.stronger as air would be fighting to get in under it.

Once the front wing elements are lowered, the lower wimg element and front of the floor lifts (I think we can just barely see that in the li led video)and receives more linear and less energised airflow, the rest of the floor towards the rear stops working as hard, air from front tyre wake is more easily pushed outward instead of.getting sucked inward.

Therefore less drag from the floor, which is the biggest wing on the car.

Maybe?

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AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 22:25
Active aero engagement, front wing only. The center part of the 2nd and 3rd element is stationary.

https://i.postimg.cc/NfMGzf3D/Active-front-wing.gif
Amazing video. Wow.

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ClassicLivery wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 22:14
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My bad, found a better angle... but the gap in the diffuser is very big
I think that the thing on the left side is part of the blue brake duct deflector. The cutout in the diffuser is roughly mirrored.
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A naive question, with front wing active aero does the extent of rake change? How does ride height vary as they use all these fancy wings?
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AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 19:46
FW17 wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 18:59
AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 18:47
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Interesting spray behind the bargebard.
in comparison to 2022 concept

https://d2n9h2wits23hf.cloudfront.net/i ... /image.jpg
My impression is that there is less outwash than before although still photos won't show the time resolved spray patterns, so it might be too early to conclude this.
Comparison with Ferrari
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Badger wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 23:44
Vappy wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 23:33
AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 22:25
Active aero engagement, front wing only. The center part of the 2nd and 3rd element is stationary.

https://i.postimg.cc/NfMGzf3D/Active-front-wing.gif
Really interesting to see the visual change in outwash at the bargeboard area once the front wing lowers. Thanks for posting
Looks like it increases, no? The upwash on the "inwash" strakes suddenly go more out than up.

I was speculating about this yesterday.
My Speculation:
The upper element of the barge board is strong enough to pull the front-wheel wake up and to the outside of the rear wheel.
When the front wing is in low drag, then the lower two elements stall the upper element of the barge board. This allows the front-wheel wake to be drawn in and thereby decreases the effectiveness of the rear wing on a straight.
This could be why the side pods are so narrow, and that massive deflector on the exit of the break duct. Of course, I could be totally wrong!
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AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 22:25
Active aero engagement, front wing only. The center part of the 2nd and 3rd element is stationary.

https://i.postimg.cc/NfMGzf3D/Active-front-wing.gif
Notice how the spray changes direction when the wing is opened!
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AR3-GP wrote:
27 Jan 2026, 22:25
Active aero engagement, front wing only. The center part of the 2nd and 3rd element is stationary.

https://i.postimg.cc/NfMGzf3D/Active-front-wing.gif
There's something very ironic that everyone is using the element meant to be an in-washing element to generate outwash...

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 00:09
Funny enough I just mentioned a couple posts before that it'll be interesting to see what the front wing does to downstream aero and we get a perfect example there!

Thanks to the spray, I think what this shows is that:

- with the front wing elements up, the front of the floor is working directly with the low pressure behind the front wing and digging under the air being sucked up from the ground behind the wing, hence the spray from the barge boards as water from the ground is sucked up and interacting with the bodywork.

- with the front wing elements down, the floor is taking clean air from the front of the car in a more linear fashion with the low pressure area in front of it removed. Hence the spray lessening on the barge boards. Technically the floor splitter after the T tray is now where the high pressure area if and if the bodywork permits, the air around it would be streamlined into the diffuser hole where the next area of low pressure/resistance is.

Edit: Maybe the diffuser hole would actually stop working as the low pressure on the underside of the car would lessen, which is why the spray seems to spread outward more as someone else said
The underfloor strakes are receiving more direct air flow with the front wing flat which is being directed outward.
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dren wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 16:17
GrizzleBoy wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 00:09
Funny enough I just mentioned a couple posts before that it'll be interesting to see what the front wing does to downstream aero and we get a perfect example there!

Thanks to the spray, I think what this shows is that:

- with the front wing elements up, the front of the floor is working directly with the low pressure behind the front wing and digging under the air being sucked up from the ground behind the wing, hence the spray from the barge boards as water from the ground is sucked up and interacting with the bodywork.

- with the front wing elements down, the floor is taking clean air from the front of the car in a more linear fashion with the low pressure area in front of it removed. Hence the spray lessening on the barge boards. Technically the floor splitter after the T tray is now where the high pressure area if and if the bodywork permits, the air around it would be streamlined into the diffuser hole where the next area of low pressure/resistance is.

Edit: Maybe the diffuser hole would actually stop working as the low pressure on the underside of the car would lessen, which is why the spray seems to spread outward more as someone else said
The underfloor strakes are receiving more direct air flow with the front wing flat which is being directed outward.
Would the splitter above the floor and strakes below it be working together to make the outwash?

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GrizzleBoy wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 16:21
dren wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 16:17
GrizzleBoy wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 00:09
Funny enough I just mentioned a couple posts before that it'll be interesting to see what the front wing does to downstream aero and we get a perfect example there!

Thanks to the spray, I think what this shows is that:

- with the front wing elements up, the front of the floor is working directly with the low pressure behind the front wing and digging under the air being sucked up from the ground behind the wing, hence the spray from the barge boards as water from the ground is sucked up and interacting with the bodywork.

- with the front wing elements down, the floor is taking clean air from the front of the car in a more linear fashion with the low pressure area in front of it removed. Hence the spray lessening on the barge boards. Technically the floor splitter after the T tray is now where the high pressure area if and if the bodywork permits, the air around it would be streamlined into the diffuser hole where the next area of low pressure/resistance is.

Edit: Maybe the diffuser hole would actually stop working as the low pressure on the underside of the car would lessen, which is why the spray seems to spread outward more as someone else said
The underfloor strakes are receiving more direct air flow with the front wing flat which is being directed outward.
Would the splitter above the floor and strakes below it be working together to make the outwash?
I think that's the idea. Out and upwash.
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Badger wrote:
28 Jan 2026, 20:19
That is a very interesting analysis. Especially the part about how opening the front wing could be stalling the rear wing and the other downforce generating surfaces due to the increased inwash of the tire wake.

I get the sense that Red Bull focused a lot on maximizing the drag reduction effect of the active aero.
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This is what Max said on a Dutch F1 TV show: The car is better than the 2023 model—it's faster and easier to drive on the limit. He also mentioned that this car has more downforce than any other car he has ever driven, which says enough."

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More downforce than last years car?? :o