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Hoffman900 wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:23
Emag wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:13
McFAN wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:05
Others may have mentioned these before,
Gary Anderson has highlighted what seem like vanes coming off the underside of the nose structure.
https://www.the-race.com/content/images ... 28--1.jpeg
He drew on top of it with colored lines that make it hard to see what exactly is going on, but I am 90% certain that is the floor leading edge. All teams have that. It's just a weird angle making it look like it's coming out of the nose.
I’m quite certain too. Gary needs to retire. His line drawing rarely makes sense
He has retired :wink:
You're probably right though those are likely the floor vanes.

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McFAN wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:21
Emag wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:13
McFAN wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:05
Others may have mentioned these before,
Gary Anderson has highlighted what seem like vanes coming off the underside of the nose structure.
https://www.the-race.com/content/images ... 28--1.jpeg
He drew on top of it with colored lines that make it hard to see what exactly is going on, but I am 90% certain that is the floor leading edge. All teams have that. It's just a weird angle making it look like it's coming out of the nose.
I thought so too initially but it does appear on others pictures with a more side profile view of the car I think, I'm not sure though.

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McFAN wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:31
McFAN wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:21
Emag wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:13


He drew on top of it with colored lines that make it hard to see what exactly is going on, but I am 90% certain that is the floor leading edge. All teams have that. It's just a weird angle making it look like it's coming out of the nose.
I thought so too initially but it does appear on others pictures with a more side profile view of the car I think, I'm not sure though.
EDIT couldn't find it on any other images so likely that they are simply the front of the floor.

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https://x.com/McLarenF1/status/20169136 ... 57/photo/1

I think this photo puts to bed that there are no vanes under the nose (that Gary saw).

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Is that the "diffusor mousehole"?

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Amazing analysis by dr Obbs =D>

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MCL40 Analysis! At first sight it looks pretty vanilla, but when you look deeper there is a LOT going on here. As usual, this is my best educated analysis without CFD, so it's prone to error. But... Let's start at the front,

Front:
⭐️ Very aggressive twist to the end plates with the upstream leading edge pointing almost inwards and then twisting outwards. Maybe generating outwash, but I think there is more going on here.
⭐️We can see the small linkage for the front actuator totally hidden in the nose, and only the linkage exposed connecting to the third element for straight-line mode. A really clean aero design with minimal disruptions.
⭐️The front wing elements are heavily mid span loaded and then back off at full regulation allowed radius to the end plate. This is likely generating quite some upwash traversing through the suspension geometry downstream. Another reason why the push rod configuration is a good choice here.
⭐️ The diveplane is seen here with a downwashing camber that would generate a small amount of lift. But this has more to do with the vortex system of the front wing. More on that later in the aero analysis.

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Mid:
⭐️We can now see the complexity of the floor-board of the MCL 40. The lower half of the floor-board consists of venetian blind style upwashing airfoils, while the upper surface is a strake style inwashing airfoil. This works with the outwash created by the forward undercut of the sidepod. This outwash is primarily along the forward floor to the outboard edge. So it makes sense the upwashing elements are here.
⭐️ We also see just how sloped and downwashing the sidepod is with the big forward undercut. This is just elegance and intelligence in how to manage the forward flow structures maximizing floor edge outwash, and pushing the front tyre wake outboard.
⭐️ Sidepod intake is pretty conventional. I'd say this is an area of development during the year. The shark fin is notched for discrete vortex shedding.

Rear:
⭐️ THE MCL40 HAS A DIFFUSER CUT. It's hard to see in these images, but it's there. There does appear to be something in the gap. Likely this is one of the allowed diffuser fences within the body of the diffuser obscuring the full view of the cutout. But it's definitely there.
⭐️ Also a curious triangular shape to the diffuser winglet. You can see this at the rear of the car. I'm assuming that's the winglet, because I won't think the diffuser sidewall is allowed to be this angled.

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Front AERO:

Ok this is the juicy stuff. If we consider the aero of the front wing, I see an intentional choice to manage the complex vortex structure of this front wing. With the downwashing diveplane vortex, the footplate vortex and the diveplane vortex are now counter rotating to one another. This means that spaced apart they collectively create outwash. Brilliant. With an upwashing diveplane these would be co-rating and creating inwash. I believe that this could be the thing that other teams are hiding by not running dive planes in the Barcelona Shakedown. McLaren just pulled the joker out of the bag a bit early.

Now inboard of the front tyre, we can see that the End Plate vortex and the cone vortex are co-rating. Which means they turn the same direction and will likely merge downstream. Or maybe not. Hard to say for sure. But both will create some downwash along the tyre onto the inboard tyre jet. This will help to suppress the jet and keep it small. Hopefully staying out of the floor.

For me, this is a first race spec front wing!! I think the others are hiding some of these interesting bits, but McLaren just showed their hand. The front wings will be all about vortex management to help control the front tyre wake and keep the inboard tyre wake suppressed, and the outboard tyre wake outboard. McLaren has achieved both of these things with this front wing....in my opinion.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:41
Is that the "diffusor mousehole"?
The #McLaren McL40 also appears to have a gap in the diffuser area. However, it looks very different from the others, and it doesn't appear that the flow is exiting through the diffuser, but rather, on its outer wall.

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Hoffman900 wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 17:50
Xero wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 17:40
Hoffman900 wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 17:19


F1 teams have been ingesting air in this region and along the floor edge to continue to power vortex’s under the floor for 25+ years. This isn’t a new concept. You can see it in Willem Toet’s videos, and can find it in Dr Katz’s work in SAE papers from the late 1990s.
I don't get the obsession either. A sealed floor is more effective than a mousehole at producing maximum,consistent and efficient downforce through ground-effect. One look at the downwash sidepods and the bargeboard design shows they're fully behind the sealed approach, relying on rear floor detail to manage the tyre squirt. It could be argued the mousehole approach is a safe one, so McLaren are being very aggressive in this area.
The sealed approach is how they managed the floors in the 1970s and 1980s. Back then they treated / assumed the air flow was laminar. The talking heads blabbered on with this theory because they just assumed that’s what they did despite plenty of literature since showing otherwise.

Since the mid 1990s both Indy Car / Champ Car / and F1 have been using vortex generators to activate the airflow under the car. Controlled leaks power these vortexes along their lengths. You can see it in Willem’s video especially, however this is documented in many places (some of which you have to pay for)

Think about it, you put high pressure next to the lowest pressure region on the car (under), where do people think this air is going to go? It’s going to go underneath.

I feel like I’m repeating myself here, with a bunch of posts on this topic with documentation from actual motorsports aerodynamicists, but people lack reading comprehension and will discount it with theories from people who aren’t motorsports aerodynamcists. Most are just copying each other and rewording it.
I think I missed a quote step, so it may have looked like I was questioning you, I wasn't. :lol: I certainly wasn't questioning the authenticity of your information. I understand the benefit of a mousehole in these regulations. I was just pointing out it's not the be-all and end-all solution everyone seems to think it is.

If McLaren can make their car work without one then they should have superior aero efficiency and peak performance. My understanding is the transition from X-mode to Z-mode could make the car unstable as the air re-attaches through the stalled diffuser. The mousehole is a safe compromise to effectively re-energise the stalled airflow by pushing air in, but at the expense of performance and efficiency. McLaren's downwash sidepods along with the sealed floor edge do the same job, but by maximising air pull through the diffuser, which is more efficient and performant, but harder to pull off. High-risk, high-reward. But it's an option.

If what I'm saying is wrong, please explain why. Always willing to learn, that's why we're here.

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These are ground effect era style 'strakes' meant to channel the air during yaw. I am guessing that these are turning from x-y direction to x direction (rather than x-y to y for floor edge vortex in the ground effect era) as we move from front to rear on the floor.
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It’s about the total package, but F1 media at large latches onto single item and goes on about something as if it’s this secret ingredient.

The magic pill theory sells, and it’s always about a magic driver, or a magic TP, or a magic technical device.

Defaulting to “well it’s the entire package” for everything doesn’t make for nice tweets and articles.

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venkyhere wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 19:35
These are ground effect era style 'strakes' meant to channel the air during yaw. I am guessing that these are turning from x-y direction to x direction (rather than x-y to y for floor edge vortex in the ground effect era) as we move from front to rear on the floor.
https://i.ibb.co/D3CG9VR/Mc-L40-floor-front-strakes.png
The strakes / vortex generators work on flat floors too:
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FittingMechanics wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 18:39
https://x.com/McLarenF1/status/20169136 ... 57/photo/1

I think this photo puts to bed that there are no vanes under the nose (that Gary saw).

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G_2EQz_XIAA ... name=large
Also confirms there is a diffuser hole.

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organic wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 19:45
Also confirms there is a diffuser hole.
That's just the gap between the diffuser wall and the tyre.

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Wasn't this picture already proof that there is a mousehole or whatever it is called?

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Badger wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 19:47
organic wrote:
29 Jan 2026, 19:45
Also confirms there is a diffuser hole.
That's just the gap between the diffuser wall and the tyre.
Yeah I think you're right my bad